From: Bart! on
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:51:44 +0100, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid>
wrote:

>Bart! wrote:
>> Sorry, punk, but mental masturbation is NOT superior.
>
>I know how you feel, but use your killfile and do not feed the trolls.
>This is not to you alone, but to everybody whe responds to them.
>
>houghi


I was talking to and about the total retard that called him a troll.
From: StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt on
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:20:05 -0500, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
<spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

>In <4mlbs6-6de.ln1(a)invalid.net>, on 11/05/2009
> at 02:29 PM, stan <smoore(a)exis.net> said:
>
>>The depth and lack of understanding displayed almost rivals the lack of
>>communication skills but I think I lean towards the communications
>>problems as more severe. Judges?
>
>My vote is split between delusions and hallucinations.


Yet another Usenet retard. The MetzTard has chimed in with his retard
gallery comments. Oh boy!
From: wolfgang kern on

"StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt" posted:
....
> Some twit will actually claim it is "proper operation" of the upgrade
script.

> Proper operation would involve a simple query dialog that lets the USER
> decide whether the OS upgrade should be doing ANYTHING with the boot
loader.

> I get to choose during a full install, because somebody had brains
> enough to know that some folks have several OSes installed on their
system.

> So WHY the omission during the upgrade choice.

> BIG ERROR.

> It really is *that simple*.

I'm quite new to Linux and just checked an older SUSE 10.2 install
to run aside an M$ boot loader (windoze or DOS 6) and my own OS.

Grub seem to need the first partition on a boot-drive and wont
(of course) be able to see my OS as a bootable partition at all.

I see your claims as a brief warning, even I might have used
a little more polite posting style and lesser nasty wording.

My workaround for the moment is to have my stuff on separate drives
and use the BIOS-boot option to overcome GRUB inabilities.
For near future I planned to create my own bootloader which then may
understand
Lunix, WinShit, and perhaps also Mac beside my very own partition types.

__
wolfgang




From: Kevin Nathan on
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:32:40 +0100
"wolfgang kern" <nowhere(a)never.at> wrote:

>I'm quite new to Linux and just checked an older SUSE 10.2 install
>to run aside an M$ boot loader (windoze or DOS 6) and my own OS.
>

When I first started running Linux (Red Hat 4.x), I was dual booting
with Win95 and, later, Win98. IIRC, I was using lilo and it was
difficult to get right and finally found XOSL. This bootloader was
really nice and I used it for several years. When I switched to SuSE
around 7.0 I continued to use it, but was keeping my eye on the new
'GRUB' (before GNU took it over). I eventually switched to GRUB and
have used it ever since. I stopped dual booting in 2000 when I switched
to Linux exclusively.


>Grub seem to need the first partition on a boot-drive and wont
>(of course) be able to see my OS as a bootable partition at all.
>

*All* bootloaders need to access the MBR. I don't know what your OS is
(I am assuming you are writing your own), but if it can boot from the
boot record of its main partition, GRUB should be able to load it.


>My workaround for the moment is to have my stuff on separate drives
>and use the BIOS-boot option to overcome GRUB inabilities.
>For near future I planned to create my own bootloader which then may
>understand
>Lunix, WinShit, and perhaps also Mac beside my very own partition
>types.
>

You don't need to write your own bootloader, unless you just want to do
it. GRUB handles Linux and Windows just fine. Again, I don't know what
your OS is, but I imagine it's possible to make it work, too. I don't
know about Mac but, if it's the OS/X version I would assume it will be
able to handle that since it's based on FreeBSD -- no experience there,
yet, so that may be inaccurate.

If you really want to write your own bootloader, I would suggest
reading through this:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/multiboot/multiboot.html

And for information on GRUB and GRUB 2, see:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

and follow the various links.

Good luck! :-)


--
Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)
Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline)

Open standards. Open source. Open minds.
The command line is the front line.
Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae
9:31am up 15 days 23:45, 38 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.19

From: Kevin Nathan on
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:20:24 -0500
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

>> Do you know ANY BASIC MATH, little boy?
>
>Do you?
>

I do, I do! (waving hands frantically)

2 + 2 = 5

for very large values of 2... :-)


--
Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)
Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline)

Open standards. Open source. Open minds.
The command line is the front line.
Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae
9:55am up 16 days 0:09, 38 users, load average: 0.29, 0.22, 0.20