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From: VanguardLH on 7 Jun 2010 18:30 Poutnik wrote: > mtg says... > >> Should I be concerned about using Chrome considering what Google are >> reputed to do with people's history and browsing data? > > Well, Chrome was installed on my Pc for a while only. after realizing > it had installed itself into my profile even without asking for > location and it had installed a service just for google updates. only > one thing left - to say "it was nice to meet you" Installing under your %userprofile% path is how Google gets around permissions in Windows. It allows non-admin accounts to install software. That's because you have write permissions in your profile path. They dump their files there to get around security in Windows. It is a known security hole. Some users will change permissions on their %userprofile% folder, including child objects (subfolders and files), to remove execute permissions because it was supposed to be storage for data, not executables. That means neither Google's Chrome or Earth will install or run there anymore. Because they won't install under the expected %progdir% path, and if not allowed to install or run under %userprofile%, they aren't usable. Their deliberate attempt to thwart Windows security is why I only trialed Chrome but wouldn't leave it on my host. As I recall, Google doesn't give users the ability to disable their automatic update of Chrome (unless you uninstall/remove some software). They auto-check every 4 hours (I hear there is an extension that can change the interval). They want to push their updates onto your host which changes its state and without your permission. It doesn't take long under Windows users realize they need to change the AU service to "notify only" for Windows updates rather than leave the default of "download and install". You don't get a choice with Chrome. They will push out a new version with permission onto your host despite you had a working setup and now you get their new-but-yet-to-be-discovered bugs. Not only does Chrome may an unprompted update check, they also allow auto-updates of extensions (i.e., of some non-Google software); see http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/autoupdate.html. So not only is Google shoving updates onto your host for Chrome but it will also shove updates onto your host for 3rd party software. Oh joy. You can regulate when updates are allowed for Chrome using GPO but I don't know a lot of corporations that are even putting Chrome on their authorized software list or including it in their sysprep images. In the past, an update to fix a vulnerability left the vulnerable code on your host, so the update didn't remove the vulnerability. I don't know if you're still stuck with having to uninstall to do a fresh install to get cleaned code. Users reporting installation problems had to shut down their firewall (Windows or 3rd party). So they had to reduce security for a local installation. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-Chrome-internet-explorer-ie8-Privacy,10050.html Regarding privacy, Chrome sends info on every keystroke in the Address bar back to Google. Nothing gets sent in IE8 until you hit the Enter key and then they only places that info goes is to your DNS server and the site to which you wanted to connect. However, IE8 also has its own Search bar and you'll notice it has immediate lookups as you type. You have to disable the Suggestions feature of the search providers installed in IE8. However, whether you get suggestions as you type or not, that info goes only to the search provider, and only to Google if that is your search provider. Then there was the privacy issue of assigning your Chrome install with a unique ID (ClientID) to track you; http://www.ghacks.net/2009/11/29/google-chrome-privacy-protector/ and http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/03/12/google-to-strip-unique-client-id-from-future-google-chrome-insta/. There is an "Iron" version of Chrome that strips out some items that generate concerns about privacy (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php). Never used Iron so I don't know if they stay current with Chrome (and Chromium on which Chrome is based) to take advantage of the latest speed enhancements. Google doesn't care about your privacy, security, or stability. That's not their goal.
From: Zombie Elvis on 7 Jun 2010 22:27 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:37:54 +0800, "Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps)" <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I noticed a report claiming that Chrome 5.0 was a lot faster than >Mozilla 3.x! And Opera 10 was on par with Chrome 5.0! > >Is it really true? Probably. Chrome and Opera have always been fast and Mozilla has been getting slower with recent versions....
From: Spamblk on 7 Jun 2010 23:53 VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:hujpgb$5jl$1(a)news.albasani.net: > Speed isn't the only measure of why users choose a web browser. I > suspect Chrome hasn't taken off faster simply because it is far less > configurable than other web browsers. It will be a looong time before Chrome comes near to FF in configurability. FF can also be reconfigured to speed it up by eliminating some, IMHO YMMV, gimicks such as "check if a site I visit is a suspected forgery" (takes up processing time) I also disabled periodic session store (saves file I/O). IMHO FF 3.6 has improved JavaSript performance.
From: Spamblk on 8 Jun 2010 00:11 VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:hujrt1$9bt$1(a)news.albasani.net: > As I recall, Google doesn't give users the ability to disable their > automatic update of Chrome According to the Chrome promo video titled "Browsers, privacy and you" this is stated: : Chrome helps protect you and your personal information from malicious : websites through our safebrowsing technology. And to make sure that : Chrome is up to date with the latest security updates, Chrome : automatically checks for updates on a regular basis. Or put another way Chrome automatically phones home, with its unique ID, on a regular basis.
From: »Q« on 8 Jun 2010 00:07
In <news:Xns9D90D90D7DAC9bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>, Bear Bottoms <removebearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > Mike Gasson <mtg(a)rosbert.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:874c10Fi0vU1 > @mid.individual.net: > > Should I be concerned about using Chrome considering what Google > > are reputed to do with people's history and browsing data? > > > > Before I give it a try. > > Google deveopers are always busy fixing bugs in Chrome. They make > sure you have a good browsing experience. Iron developers are busy taking the spyware out of Chrome. <http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php> |