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From: John Corliss on 9 Jun 2010 18:22 Franklin wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> John Corliss wrote: >>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>> John Corliss wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think the one thing I object to the most in Chrome is that it checks >>>>> for updates automatically whether or not you want it to. >>>> >>>> Yeah, I hate my software to be up-to-date. >>> >>> Depends. Sometimes updating is done for a valid reason, other times it's >>> done to remove functionality. >>> >>> In the case of Chrome though, it checks every day and sends your unique >>> ID to their servers. >>> >>> That just doesn't sit right with me. It establishes a precedent for >>> other programs and companies to start doing likewise. But then, who do I >>> think I'm talking to? You think that cloud computing is a good thing and >>> don't seem to believe in privacy. >> >> One more thing: If an update causes a problem (and I've experienced such >> a thing on a couple of occasions with MS Windows updates), I will be >> stuck with that problem. I prefer to allow updates to get "aired out" by >> others a little before I install them. This alone is good enough reason >> for me to not want companies to be able to screw around with my computer >> without my permission, but there are other reasons. > > Where's a good place to check out problems with MS updates without having to > research each one? I'm afraid I don't know, Franklin. Whenever I've had a problem with one, I've always just Googled for info. I have gotten some good info here though: http://www.pchell.com -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (like x-privat.org for eg.) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please. Adobe Flash sucks, DivX rules.
From: John Corliss on 9 Jun 2010 18:32 Bear Bottoms wrote: > John Corliss wrote: >> >> In the case of Chrome though, it checks every day and sends your unique >> ID to their servers. > > You are ill-informed. I can see that now. It checks every four hours. Doesn't send the UID to them though. Doesn't matter. I will always do whatever I can to stop any program, AV included, from downloading updates without my permission. I have enough self discipline to do it manually if I think a program is worth updating. As for Chrome though, I wouldn't touch that browser or *anything* from Google with a 2000 yard pole. The only exception is their search engine. That is, if I'm searching for something I don't mind them or the feds knowing about. -- John Corliss BS206. Because of all the Googlespam, I block all posts sent through Google Groups. I also block as many posts from anonymous remailers (like x-privat.org for eg.) as possible due to forgeries posted through them. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please. Adobe Flash sucks, DivX rules.
From: The Chief Instigator on 9 Jun 2010 19:12 On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:19:06 -0700, John Corliss <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Bear Bottoms wrote: >> John Corliss wrote: >>> >>> I think the one thing I object to the most in Chrome is that it checks >>> for updates automatically whether or not you want it to. >> >> Yeah, I hate my software to be up-to-date. > > Depends. Sometimes updating is done for a valid reason, other times it's > done to remove functionality. > > In the case of Chrome though, it checks every day and sends your unique > ID to their servers. > > That just doesn't sit right with me. It establishes a precedent for > other programs and companies to start doing likewise. But then, who do I > think I'm talking to? You think that cloud computing is a good thing and > don't seem to believe in privacy. That's one of the reasons I'm using SRWare Iron...and it's more than a bit faster than Google Chrome. -- Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick(a)io.com) Houston, Texas www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11) NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010
From: Spamblk on 9 Jun 2010 20:45 VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:humuf6$1i8$1(a)news.albasani.net: > I don't remember for which version and thereafter, but it looks like > Google removed the ClientID string to identify your particular > install. > I think that change was pretty recent. "Removed" doesn't appear to me to be the best word, a better word IMHO would be "change" e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/google_chrome_unique_identifier_c hange/ : Google is changing the way it handles the unique identifier that : accompanies each installation of its Chrome browser. And even if the unique ID is removed after initial install, it would appear that Chrome will still insist on its right, as it sees it, to check for updates and provide the user with no option to opt out: http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/chrome/google-chrome-privacy-whitep aper.pdf : Google Update also sends other information that helps us : understand how many people are using Chrome and how often : they use it. This includes whether you used Google Chrome in : the last day, the number of days since the last time you : used it, and the total number of days that Google Chrome has : been installed. The developers of the search engine Google have put a lot of effort into the development of their products and I think this has led to a sense of entitlement on their part to gather more and more user data. As for CEO Schmidt's comments on privacy and the distinction between doing something wrong and something private is rebutted better on the pcworld website than I could ever do here. http://www.pcworld.com/article/184446/googles_schmidt_roasted_for_privacy _comments.html
From: Craig on 9 Jun 2010 21:35
On 06/09/2010 06:07 PM, Bear Bottoms wrote: > All of Chrome's engine is not Open Source. You're absolutely right, BB. Chrome's proprietary (closed) source includes the code for: - built in automatic updates - Unique User IDs - RLZ-Tracking - URL Tracker - Error Reporting and last but not least... - Google branding. SRWare Iron doesn't include any of the above proprietary "features." IOW, if you want to be poked, prodded & tracked, you shouldn't use SRWare Iron. <http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php> -- -Craig |