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From: D.M. Procida on 1 May 2010 13:07 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > > > Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > > > > >A friend, back in his student days, attended a lecture during which > > >Penrose stated that he couldn't ever imagine a silicon-based computer > > >truly thinking. To which his waggish response was "So I suppose you > > >can't imagine a carbon-based computer thinking either?" > > > > Amusing, but rather begging the question - if silicon computers can't > > think, it might be because the brain is *not* a carbon-based computer. > > It bloody well is. Open up your brain-pan and poke it around. > > Look at the parts. The ports? The ports are a joke! Good luck finding anything you can plug in, never mind download the drivers for. Daniele
From: Peter Ceresole on 1 May 2010 13:15 D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > The ports? The ports are a joke! Good luck finding anything you can plug > in, never mind download the drivers for. What? You mean you don't have a USB4 port behind your ear? How delightfully manual. -- Peter
From: James Jolley on 1 May 2010 13:17 On 2010-05-01 18:07:18 +0100, real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) said: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >> Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: >> >>> Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A friend, back in his student days, attended a lecture during which >>>> Penrose stated that he couldn't ever imagine a silicon-based computer >>>> truly thinking. To which his waggish response was "So I suppose you >>>> can't imagine a carbon-based computer thinking either?" >>> >>> Amusing, but rather begging the question - if silicon computers can't >>> think, it might be because the brain is *not* a carbon-based computer. >> >> It bloody well is. Open up your brain-pan and poke it around. >> >> Look at the parts. > > The ports? The ports are a joke! Good luck finding anything you can plug > in, never mind download the drivers for. Yes, Rowland would need an add new hardware dialogue all of his own, judging how he responds to people. You try and be nice, he whines. You dish it back, the same.
From: Richard Tobin on 1 May 2010 13:23 In article <1jhtpsb.rlcgly1a1xwqgN%real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: >> It bloody well is. Open up your brain-pan and poke it around. >The ports? The ports are a joke! Good luck finding anything you can plug >in, never mind download the drivers for. But as I've remarked before, it has a quite fancy debugging mode that the builders didn't completely disable. They removed the switch, but hackers have found ways using buffer overflow to get the code to run anyway. It can play back earlier events, modify memory, filter input, apply control to peripherals outside the normal safety ranges, and even set breakpoints with corresponding actions. It's called "hypnosis". -- Richard
From: James Jolley on 1 May 2010 13:27
On 2010-05-01 18:23:18 +0100, richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) said: > In article > <1jhtpsb.rlcgly1a1xwqgN%real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>, > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > >>> It bloody well is. Open up your brain-pan and poke it around. > >> The ports? The ports are a joke! Good luck finding anything you can plug >> in, never mind download the drivers for. > > But as I've remarked before, it has a quite fancy debugging mode that > the builders didn't completely disable. They removed the switch, but > hackers have found ways using buffer overflow to get the code to run > anyway. > > It can play back earlier events, modify memory, filter input, apply > control to peripherals outside the normal safety ranges, and even set > breakpoints with corresponding actions. It's called "hypnosis". > > -- Richard Yes and debugging the crashes caused by them are called psychotherapists. |