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From: Pd on 29 Apr 2010 10:58 James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > This may sound funny, but do you ever do anything else apart from argue > the toss with your fake philosophical bollocks? Christ James, you're a spiteful little prick sometimes. -- Pd
From: D.M. Procida on 29 Apr 2010 11:27 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > >And what Dijkstra appears to be saying is that definitions of words are > >not very relevant here. > > That's not how I interpret it. But then I have never seen what context > he wrote it in. You mean he didn't write it specially for Hugh's .signature? > >I presume - not ever having read Dijkstra - he means something like: > >just as the question to be asked of a submarine is not "can it swim?", > >but "are they any good in water?", so we should be asking different > >questions about machine intelligence. > > No-one ever asks if submarines can swim. The fact that they do ask > whether computers can think shows that they don't mean it in a > narrow definitional sense. Dijkstra's comment reads to me as a > pedantic refusal to engage with the question. Refusal, yes - but why pedantic? It's a slightly arch way of suggesting that asking whether computers can think is simply the wrong question. It's a very Wittgensteinian way of approaching it. Wittgestein gets right up my nose and I think he's fundamentally wrong, but I don't think what he says is *stupid* - which is all I was really objecting to. Daniele
From: Bella Jones on 29 Apr 2010 12:15 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > > > This may sound funny, but do you ever do anything else apart from argue > > the toss with your fake philosophical bollocks? Not that it's worth > > much, we can all philosophise until the cows come home but philosophy > > by definition is irrelevant. > > Why so aggressive, James? > > And I'd say that if life is about having an interesting and amusing time > (and what else could it possibly be about?) then philosophy asks the > right questions, and is more fun than almost anything else. > > And there really isn't anything the slightest bit 'fake' about it. Come on everyone! Hush now! All together now: Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday dear Zoara Happy birthday to you *cheers* *party poppers* :-) -- bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk
From: Jim on 29 Apr 2010 12:25 On 2010-04-29, Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > Come on everyone! Hush now! > > All together now: > > Happy birthday to you > Happy birthday to you > Happy birthday dear Zoara > Happy birthday to you > > *cheers* *party poppers* > >:-) We can haz cake? Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "[The MP4-12C] will be fitted with all manner of pointlessly shiny buttons that light up and a switch that says 'sport mode' that isn't connected to anything." The Daily Mash.
From: Peter Ceresole on 29 Apr 2010 13:33
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > *cheers* *party poppers* > > > >:-) > > We can haz cake? Only if the box izz closed. -- Peter |