From: Romanise on
On Apr 9, 6:08 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 11:10 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > It was not about your IFE or HTN but it was regarding the award you
> > have been talking about that I inquired  if you tried to expose the
> > culprit Indian Institution you said is Government supported.
>
> I never said it was a culprit Indian institution. That is entirely
> your own and completely wrong lying stand.

Any Institution and that too a Government supported one asking the
recipient of their award to pay upfront for Hotel charges is criminal.
What award giving Government supported Institutions you know that ask
those who they want give awards to pay for their expenses to come to
receive awards.
Vishwanath Pratap Singh when he was a Minister of Central Government
of India used to invite questions from Public, perhaps other Ministers
too. Those whose questions were selected to be aired were invited to
Delhi to aske them on Indian National TV. Their travel expenses as
well as their stay in Delhi was paid by Indian National TV
Doordarshan.


> If it was, people like the
> President of India, top Cabinet ministers, etc. should not be handing
> out those awards, and the awardees should not be seated in positions
> of honour in the Republic Day parade.

If that is so that is more of a reason to expose such Institutions
which sell their awards.

> Your slimy attitude, of
> slipping in this lie and pretending that I told it implicitly, is
> digusting and dishonourable.

What is dishonourable is not to expose the Institution.

> But, I never expected anything else from
> you.  If I at all reply to your toxic posts, that is only because I am
> writing for an international audience, and want to show that all is
> clear and well with me.

Only trouble is that no one is seconding you for awarding yourself
Nobel Prize.

Perhaps they consider you fit for an award where you have to pay
hospitality and travel expenses.

> Arindam Banerjee

From: Arindam Banerjee on
On Apr 9, 3:32 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 6:08 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 8, 11:10 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It was not about your IFE or HTN but it was regarding the award you
> > > have been talking about that I inquired  if you tried to expose the
> > > culprit Indian Institution you said is Government supported.
>
> > I never said it was a culprit Indian institution. That is entirely
> > your own and completely wrong lying stand.
>
> Any Institution and that too a Government supported one asking the
> recipient of their award to pay upfront for Hotel charges is criminal.

That is your opinion. I never said it was a culprit institution. Why
on earth should I try to "expose" some institution supported by the
Union Govt. of India??? None of my business. What to expose anyway -
all that they are doing is open to scrutiny. My job is simply to find
out the cost-effectiveness, is it worth it or not. Should I be better
off investing my money elsewhere.

> What award giving Government supported Institutions you know that ask
> those who they want give awards to pay for their expenses to come to
> receive awards.

I neither know nor care. Evidently these guys believe that we NRIs
are made of money, and so spending a few thousand dollars of our own
money on hotels is nothing for us. Unfortunately in my case, they got
the wrong guy. I am not that well off. From that point of view, I
probably did not deserve the Hind Rattan award so did not take it.
Very just! That the kallu-mallu quotawallah scum of the earth,
corrupt to their evil cores, and their likes, may make merry of that,
does not bother me at all.

> Vishwanath Pratap Singh when he was a Minister of Central Government
> of India used to invite questions from Public, perhaps other Ministers
> too. Those whose questions were selected to be aired were invited to
> Delhi to aske them on Indian National TV. Their travel expenses as
> well as their stay in Delhi was paid by Indian National TV
> Doordarshan.

Okay, but these were not NRIs. In UK people pay huge amounts to the
govt. to get public honours, this has been a long tradition. So maybe
the Indian Govt. is trying something on those lines. Sell some
honours to those who can buy. Not a bad idea at all. The British
Rulers had titles like Rai Bahadur, Rai Sahib etc. and no doubt these
worthy people gave them something to get those honours, in some sort
of currency.

> >  If it was, people like the
> > President of India, top Cabinet ministers, etc. should not be handing
> > out those awards, and the awardees should not be seated in positions
> > of honour in the Republic Day parade.
>
> If that is so that is more of a reason to expose such Institutions
> which sell their awards.

All that they are doing is open. If you do not like it, do whatever
you wish. Just don't expect me to do what you might do.

> > Your slimy attitude, of
> > slipping in this lie and pretending that I told it implicitly, is
> > digusting and dishonourable.
>
> What is dishonourable is not to expose the Institution.

Expose what exactly? They are pretty open. I got a letter by mail
saying that I was under consideration for the award, and could I send
them a bio-data. A panel would study it. Then they said that I would
get it, if I could come in person, and stay in Ashoka Hotel. I would
get an opportunity to meet other awardees, we would have seminars and
tours, meetings and dinners, and a Govt. dignitary of the highest
level would present us awards. We would get very good seats in the
Republic Day parade. So, what is wrong about all this?

> > But, I never expected anything else from
> > you.  If I at all reply to your toxic posts, that is only because I am
> > writing for an international audience, and want to show that all is
> > clear and well with me.
>
> Only trouble is that no one is seconding you for awarding yourself
> Nobel Prize.

As usual, you are making no sense. I may deserve some Nobel prizes
and much more, but that is not my lookout.

> Perhaps they consider you fit for an award where you have to pay
> hospitality and travel expenses.

One gotta start from somewhere. I got all the awards I wanted, many
many years ago.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.
From: Romanise on
On Apr 9, 10:37 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:

> In UK people pay huge amounts to the
> govt. to get public honours, this has been a long tradition.  So maybe
> the Indian Govt. is trying something on those lines.  Sell some
> honours to those who can buy.  Not a bad idea at all.

Now you are maligning British Government and have come out in open in
maligning Indian Government.

Queen gives out on the recommendation of the Government in power I
believe, MBE, OBE, Knighthood, to those who have excelled in their
professions, Just as Indian Government gives out various Padma awards.
Which one of these are paid for by the awardee?
From: Romanise on
On Apr 9, 6:24 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> W  I have written on
> many important matters,

Would you care to enumerate them?
From: Romanise on
On Apr 9, 10:37 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>  Why
> on earth should I try to "expose" some institution supported by the
> Union Govt. of India???

How was/is your award giving institution supported by the Union
Government of India?


> > What award giving Government supported Institutions you know that ask
> > those who they want give awards to pay for their expenses to come to
> > receive awards.
>
> I neither know nor care.  Evidently these guys believe that we NRIs
> are made of money, and so spending a few thousand dollars of our own
> money on hotels is nothing for us. Unfortunately in my case, they got
> the wrong guy.  I am not that well off.  From that point of view, I
> probably did not deserve the Hind Rattan award so did not take it.
> Very just!  That the kallu-mallu quotawallah scum of the earth,
> corrupt to their evil cores, and their likes, may make merry of that,
> does not bother me at all.
>
> > Vishwanath Pratap Singh when he was a Minister of Central Government
> > of India used to invite questions from Public, perhaps other Ministers
> > too. Those whose questions were selected to be aired were invited to
> > Delhi to aske them on Indian National TV. Their travel expenses as
> > well as their stay in Delhi was paid by Indian National TV
> > Doordarshan.
>
> Okay, but these were not NRIs.  In UK people pay huge amounts to the
> govt. to get public honours, this has been a long tradition.  So maybe
> the Indian Govt. is trying something on those lines.  Sell some
> honours to those who can buy.  Not a bad idea at all.  The British
> Rulers had titles like Rai Bahadur, Rai Sahib etc. and no doubt these
> worthy people gave them something to get those honours, in some sort
> of currency.
>
> > >  If it was, people like the
> > > President of India, top Cabinet ministers, etc. should not be handing
> > > out those awards, and the awardees should not be seated in positions
> > > of honour in the Republic Day parade.
>
> > If that is so that is more of a reason to expose such Institutions
> > which sell their awards.
>
> All that they are doing is open.  If you do not like it, do whatever
> you wish.  Just don't expect me to do what you might do.
>
> > > Your slimy attitude, of
> > > slipping in this lie and pretending that I told it implicitly, is
> > > digusting and dishonourable.
>
> > What is dishonourable is not to expose the Institution.
>
> Expose what exactly?  They are pretty open.  I got a letter by mail
> saying that I was under consideration for the award, and could I send
> them a bio-data.  A panel would study it.

You did send your bio-data?

Did you care to know what credentials the panel that was to study it
had?

Or just as you are grabbing the "scientist" Straydoggie whose purpose
of starting this thread cannot be other than get you more humiliated,
exposed, you grabbed that Institution (NRI Welfare Society - with
dubious patrons) which you even today are thinking is supported by the
Union Government of India.

Of course the only point in your favour is that you were not conned
except being deluded even today that the award was something worth
having and keep telling about it here on Usenet.


> Then they said that I would
> get it, if I could come in person, and stay in Ashoka Hotel.  I would
> get an opportunity to meet other awardees, we would have seminars and
> tours, meetings and dinners, and a Govt. dignitary of the highest
> level would present us awards.  We would get very good seats in the
> Republic Day parade.  So, what is wrong about all this?
>
> > > But, I never expected anything else from
> > > you.  If I at all reply to your toxic posts, that is only because I am
> > > writing for an international audience, and want to show that all is
> > > clear and well with me.
>
> > Only trouble is that no one is seconding you for awarding yourself
> > Nobel Prize.
>
> As usual, you are making no sense.  I may deserve some Nobel prizes
> and much more, but that is not my lookout.
>
> > Perhaps they consider you fit for an award where you have to pay
> > hospitality and travel expenses.
>
> One gotta start from somewhere.  I got all the awards I wanted, many
> many years ago.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee.