From: Romanise on
On Apr 7, 1:10 pm, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

> To get the award, you got to get it in person, and for that you have
> to stay in Ashoka hotel.  So you got to pay them some thousand dollars
> US for the privilege.  In advance.  Plus your own air fare, and the
> time you spent there for which you do not make earnings.  If you don't
> pay in advance for the hospitality, you do not get the award.

Did you tell your employers about you being nominated for Bharat
Rattan and the expenses involved.

I am sure they would have felt honoured to meet most of the expenses
and give you on-duty leave.

Did you not know then the Australian Mining Pioneer Sir Jean-Paul
Turcaud,the prospector Mr Malcolm Fabian or the famous Scientist
Straydoggie ? I am sure any of them would have felt honoured by their
friend and the only true genius after Newton and Maxwell, your good
self. Even Peter Webb would have felt honoured by you becoming Bharat
Rattan.
From: Arindam Banerjee on
On Apr 7, 11:05 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 1:10 pm, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > To get the award, you got to get it in person, and for that you have
> > to stay in Ashoka hotel.  So you got to pay them some thousand dollars
> > US for the privilege.  In advance.  Plus your own air fare, and the
> > time you spent there for which you do not make earnings.  If you don't
> > pay in advance for the hospitality, you do not get the award.
>
> Did you tell your employers about you being nominated for Bharat
> Rattan and the expenses involved.

What employers? I am a contractor, private businessman, and gentleman
of leisure, since 2006.

> I am sure they would have felt honoured to meet most of the expenses
> and give you on-duty leave.

Why should I have bothered them with matters of no concern to them? I
wasn't paid to collect top awards from foreign countries! We were
specifically told in a department meeting to do the research needed
for the company in the company time.

> Did you not know then the Australian Mining Pioneer Sir Jean-Paul
> Turcaud,the prospector Mr Malcolm Fabian or the famous  Scientist
> Straydoggie ? I am sure any of them would have felt honoured by their
> friend and the only true genius after Newton and Maxwell, your good
> self. Even Peter Webb would have felt honoured by you becoming Bharat
> Rattan.

Hind Rattan was what I was nominated for - and the reason given was
not specific but very general and common to all nominees. These
gentlemen you mentiona are recent acquaintances.

Arindam Banerjee

From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on
On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 11:05 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 7, 1:10 pm, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > To get the award, you got to get it in person, and for that you have
> > > to stay in Ashoka hotel.  So you got to pay them some thousand dollars
> > > US for the privilege.  In advance.  Plus your own air fare, and the
> > > time you spent there for which you do not make earnings.  If you don't
> > > pay in advance for the hospitality, you do not get the award.
>
> > Did you tell your employers about you being nominated for Bharat
> > Rattan and the expenses involved.
>
> What employers?  I am a contractor, private businessman, and gentleman
> of leisure, since 2006.

So, you are not related to the Arindam Banerjee who's actually
accomplished something in life:

www-users.cs.umn.edu/~banerjee/

Arindam Banerjee
Assistant Professor
McKnight Land-Grant Professor (2009-11)
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

> > I am sure they would have felt honoured to meet most of the expenses
> > and give you on-duty leave.
>
> Why should I have bothered them with matters of no concern to them?  I
> wasn't paid to collect top awards from foreign countries!  We were
> specifically told in a department meeting to do the research needed
> for the company in the company time.
>
> > Did you not know then the Australian Mining Pioneer Sir Jean-Paul
> > Turcaud,the prospector Mr Malcolm Fabian or the famous  Scientist
> > Straydoggie ? I am sure any of them would have felt honoured by their
> > friend and the only true genius after Newton and Maxwell, your good
> > self. Even Peter Webb would have felt honoured by you becoming Bharat
> > Rattan.
>
> Hind Rattan was what I was nominated for

Don't despair. Some day you will be nominated for Front Rattan.

> - and the reason given was
> not specific but very general and common to all nominees.  

Were you nominated for Hind Rattan before or after you were nominated
for the Nobel Prize?

> These
> gentlemen you mentiona are recent acquaintances.
>
> Arindam Banerjee

From: Romanise on
On Apr 7, 11:31 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 10:37 pm, Romanise <josh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > > To get the award, you got to get it in person, and for that you have
> > > to stay in Ashoka hotel.  So you got to pay them some thousand dollars
> > > US for the privilege.  In advance.  Plus your own air fare, and the
> > > time you spent there for which you do not make earnings.  If you don't
> > > pay in advance for the hospitality, you do not get the award.
>
> > You took no offence at being asked to pay for hospitality and that too
> > of Ashoka Hotel? Or you consider that normal for awards?
>
> > >  It does
> > > not come by post, for they say the idea is to learn from NRI
> > > experience and that cannot happen if you don't come to India.  
>
> > You accept the premise that those who want to learn must be paid back
> > by spending on Ashoka Hotel by the person from whom they want to
> > learn?
>
> > > So it
> > > is not a matter of buying and selling as you wrongly put it.  It is
> > > one of expense, which one may or may not be able to afford, for some
> > > possible future gain.
>
> > > > Neither it says it gets any yearly grant from any government.
>
> > > > What I find strange is that you were asked to buy an award and you
> > > > felt neither offended, nor felt it your duty to expose the sellers of
> > > > the award for the good name of Bharat.
>
> > > What a joke.  Does anyone really care about what I say?  I have been
> > > talking about the IFE, HTN etc. for ages and no one bothers.  The only
> > > response, and that too gratuitous, I ever got from GoI was a most
> > > stinking one, from one Abominable Garg, a minor govt. functionary and
> > > careerist in some scientific department.  Good name of Bharat, is for
> > > the quotawallahs to uphold.
>
> > You wrote to "Abominable Garg" about the offer of the award?
>
> No, that was in 2003 when news of my new findings in physics were
> splashed in the media, and later followed by an article I wrote in
> Outlook magazine.

It was not about your IFE or HTN but it was regarding the award you
have been talking about that I inquired if you tried to expose the
culprit Indian Institution you said is Government supported.


> > I believe your father is striving to uphold good name of Bharat, isn't
> > he?
> > You wrote "I was asking him [Dr Jai Maharaj] to contribute to Bharat
> > Sevashram Sangha, a very well-known and highly established Hindu
> > organisation.  My father worked in a voluntary capacity for that
> > organisation" 13 days back.
> > What happened in 13 days that good name of bharat is no more for you
>
> Who thinks you are making any sense....

I am a poster on Usenet who is asking you specific question on the
basis of what you post here. In this thread you put Bharat in hands of
those who as per you do not deserve to be referred to by the name they
put forward while just 13 days back you had put Bharat in hands of
your father.

What sense it makes to you?

From: Myself,PresentContinuouslyTenseMallu on
On 4/8/2010 2:03 AM, Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. wrote:
> On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, Arindam Banerjee<adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Hind Rattan was what I was nominated for
>
> Don't despair. Some day you will be nominated for Front Rattan.
>

That's after his 'hind' has been adequately 'rattaned' - mostly to get
the gray matter to migrate upwards into the cranium, which unfortunately
is currently occupied by solidified lead (due to generations of
molten-lead-in-the-ears treatment by 'kingly classes').

>> - and the reason given was
>> not specific but very general and common to all nominees.
>
> Were you nominated for Hind Rattan before or after you were nominated
> for the Nobel Prize?
>

Obviously the Hind Rattan. Someone has to give a rattan hind to kookery
before kookery can be nominated for at least the Ig Nobel Prize [he'll
join luminaries like Dan Quayle, Edward Teller, AB Vajpayee, Nawaz
Sharif, Lee Kuan Yew, Deepak Chopra, Erich von Daniken, and L. Ron
Hubbard, ...]

>> Arindam Banerjee
>

And Arindumb continues to remain oh so 'umble while bestowing 'bounties'
[mostly of Fig Newtons and Maxwell House] on humanity. His 'research'
papers continue to be printed on the seemingly endless rolls of the
Journal of Charmin' TP.