From: Pascal Costanza on
On 15/03/2010 04:46, Kazimir Majorinc wrote:
> How many people use Lisp (all dialects
> combined) today? My guess: 3000, based
> on the membership on various Lisp forums.
> Anyone with better guess?

The people who use such forums probably represent only a minor fraction
of the number of actual Lisp users.


Pascal

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From: Duke Normandin on
On 2010-03-15, Kazimir Majorinc <email(a)false.false> wrote:
> How many people use Lisp (all dialects
> combined) today? My guess: 3000, based
> on the membership on various Lisp forums.
> Anyone with better guess?
>
> When Lisp was the most popular, in
> relative or absolute numbers? How many
> people used it at that time?

Haven't got a clue on Lisper population. ;)

I'd be more interested in the popularity of Lisp et al (and other languages)
based on nationality or geographic region. I didn't see any such stats at
tiobe.com, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. I must have used the
wrong search terms at Google. ;)
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From: David Thole on
Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> writes:

> On 15/03/2010 04:46, Kazimir Majorinc wrote:
>> How many people use Lisp (all dialects
>> combined) today? My guess: 3000, based
>> on the membership on various Lisp forums.
>> Anyone with better guess?
>
> The people who use such forums probably represent only a minor
> fraction of the number of actual Lisp users.
>
>
> Pascal

This point is extremely valid. Many times the forum users are actually
a minor fraction of the actual users of something. For practical
examples of this, you can look at World of Warcraft's forums vs their
actual subscribers. Measuring the popularity of something due to forums
is kinda helpful, but no where near accurate.

Some have already said this - but what's the point in worrying about
popularity of Lisp-like languages anyways? There are many "popular"
languages, and many times they are popular due to the barrier of entry
being fairly low or just being the flavor of the day. PHP, for example,
has been a popular language for awhile now and it's a very poorly
designed language.

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From: Alex Mizrahi on
DN> Haven't got a clue on Lisper population. ;)

DN> I'd be more interested in the popularity of Lisp et al (and other
DN> languages) based on nationality or geographic region. I didn't see any
DN> such stats at tiobe.com, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. I
DN> must have used the wrong search terms at Google. ;)

http://google.com/trends?q=lisp+programming

From: fortunatus on
On Mar 15, 6:11 am, "Alex Mizrahi" <udode...(a)users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:
> FWTW, Peter Seibel have estimated [1] that more than 10,000 copies of his
> book _Practical Common  Lisp_ are going to be sold, because first two prints
> produces 8000 copies, and publisher made a third print.

Given this, and that those 10,000 are mainly newbies (like I was), I
think we should easily consider a lower bound in the multi -
100,000's. What about Lisp conference attendance? Could we make a
better informed extrapolation?


> I guess it depends a lot on what you count as use. You know, some schools or
> univesities might teach Lisp or Scheme. Do those students "use" Lisp?

I'd guess the student users are probably a lower order part of the
tally. 1000's or 10,000's at any given moment rather than 100,000's.

(Oh, wait, how many of Seibel's customers have been students? Ouch,
getting too complicated.)