How many people use or used Lisp?
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From: Alessio Stalla on 18 Mar 2010 11:41 On Mar 18, 12:10 pm, David Thole <dth...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Alessio Stalla <alessiosta...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Mar 15, 11:26 am, Pascal Costanza <p...(a)p-cos.net> wrote: > >> On 15/03/2010 04:46, Kazimir Majorinc wrote: > > >> > How many people use Lisp (all dialects > >> > combined) today? My guess: 3000, based > >> > on the membership on various Lisp forums. > >> > Anyone with better guess? > > >> The people who use such forums probably represent only a minor fraction > >> of the number of actual Lisp users. > > > I completely agree. As an example, if you count the number of people > > who actively post on comp.lang.java.programmer you'll find it's more > > or less the same number as comp.lang.lisp, if not inferior. Yet, Java > > is used much, much more than Lisp. > > > Alessio > > I wonder if this also has to do with passion of a language. I rarely > see that much passion in the Java community as I see in the > Lisp-like-languages community (grouping together CL, Clojure, and Scheme > in this regard). Probably passion is indeed a key factor. I have been programming in Java for more years than Lisp, but only recently I began to read comp.lang.java.programmer, while I have been reading and occasionally posting here on c.l.l. for several years. Alessio
From: Pascal J. Bourguignon on 19 Mar 2010 09:17 fortunatus <daniel.eliason(a)excite.com> writes: > On Mar 15, 6:11�am, "Alex Mizrahi" <udode...(a)users.sourceforge.net> > wrote: >> FWTW, Peter Seibel have estimated [1] that more than 10,000 copies of his >> book _Practical Common �Lisp_ are going to be sold, because first two prints >> produces 8000 copies, and publisher made a third print. > > Given this, and that those 10,000 are mainly newbies (like I was), I > think we should easily consider a lower bound in the multi - > 100,000's. What about Lisp conference attendance? Could we make a > better informed extrapolation? > > >> I guess it depends a lot on what you count as use. You know, some schools or >> univesities might teach Lisp or Scheme. Do those students "use" Lisp? > > I'd guess the student users are probably a lower order part of the > tally. 1000's or 10,000's at any given moment rather than 100,000's. > > (Oh, wait, how many of Seibel's customers have been students? Ouch, > getting too complicated.) No, students would be two orders of magnitude more, at least, than professionnal lispers. A lot of students have to learn some lisp (or scheme), and forget completely about it past the exam. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Slobodan Blazeski on 23 Mar 2010 15:49
On Mar 18, 4:41 pm, Alessio Stalla <alessiosta...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 18, 12:10 pm, David Thole <dth...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I wonder if this also has to do with passion of a language. I rarely > > see that much passion in the Java community as I see in the > > Lisp-like-languages community (grouping together CL, Clojure, and Scheme > > in this regard). > > Probably passion is indeed a key factor. I have been programming in > Java for more years than Lisp, but only recently I began to read > comp.lang.java.programmer, while I have been reading and occasionally > posting here on c.l.l. for several years. > > Alessio Yip somebody even wrote a poem for it http://bit.ly/c2KfFJ Slobodan |