How many people use or used Lisp?
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From: vanekl on 15 Mar 2010 12:15 David Thole wrote: > Some have already said this - but what's the point in worrying about > popularity of Lisp-like languages anyways? I know a PHB who wants to switch to a commodity language so that he can hire commodity programmers and pay commodity wages, firing all the expensive programmers on one of his major software projects. So questions like this that test the waters to check whether a language is popular enough to support a large enough ecosystem of programmers could be useful. I'm not suggesting this is Kazimir's motivation, however. PHBs don't care if you are programming in PHP, CL, or Smalltalk, they just want it done cheaply and not by expensive, prima donna programmers. The ironic thing? The program that was written by expensive programmers with an exotic language is already built, is running well, and the company uses it successfully every day. What's even more of a poke in the eye, it's the company's only major custom software system that was able to adapt to the changing business requirements on schedule. Of course this is just one data point, but it's a rather large one. Names withheld to protect the guilty.
From: Peter Keller on 15 Mar 2010 12:47 Alex Mizrahi <udodenko(a)users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > DN> Haven't got a clue on Lisper population. ;) > > DN> I'd be more interested in the popularity of Lisp et al (and other > DN> languages) based on nationality or geographic region. I didn't see any > DN> such stats at tiobe.com, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. I > DN> must have used the wrong search terms at Google. ;) > > http://google.com/trends?q=lisp+programming I typed in a bunch of popular and not so popular programming languages to that search thing in the form of "X programming", and *all* of them were in a decreasing trend. This included Assembly, C, C++, Java, Javascript, C Sharp, Perl, Ruby, Cobol, Python, Lisp, Scheme, and Fortran. Good, there needs to be less people programming. Later, -pete
From: Otto Diesenbacher on 15 Mar 2010 13:03 Duke Normandin <dukeofperl(a)ml1.net> writes: > Haven't got a clue on Lisper population. ;) > > I'd be more interested in the popularity of Lisp et al (and other languages) > based on nationality or geographic region. I didn't see any such stats at > tiobe.com, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist. I must have used the > wrong search terms at Google. ;) http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=114830829398919898492.000461fa38297b8417186&ll=35.46067,16.875&spn=149.466634,295.3125&z=0&source=embed (you also get there via http://planet.lisp.org/)
From: Alex Mizrahi on 15 Mar 2010 13:05 PK> I typed in a bunch of popular and not so popular programming languages PK> to that search thing in the form of "X programming", and *all* of them PK> were in a decreasing trend. I think results are normalized by total number of searches in Google. So it merely means that non-programmers start using Google more intensively, then.
From: Thomas A. Russ on 15 Mar 2010 15:33
"vanekl" <vanek(a)acd.net> writes: > PHBs don't care if you are programming in PHP, CL, or Smalltalk, they just > want it done cheaply and not by expensive, prima donna programmers. The > ironic thing? The program that was written by expensive programmers with an > exotic language is already built, is running well, and the company uses it > successfully every day. What's even more of a poke in the eye, it's the > company's only major custom software system that was able to adapt to the > changing business requirements on schedule. Of course this is just one data > point, but it's a rather large one. Names withheld to protect the guilty. And, of course when the re-write of this system fails, the PHB will succeed in asserting that the reason it didn't work was because the original system was written in a weird, non-standard language.... -- Thomas A. Russ, USC/Information Sciences Institute |