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From: nospam on 6 Jul 2010 11:35 In article <nke6365auqrka4ut9385fagk0t1svfmqqa(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence, > whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.' and the latter is something you repeatedly do.
From: nospam on 6 Jul 2010 11:47 In article <3te636lv4fmjmbvfpq5k0k2ogqpik9stts(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > Side note: It's almost certainly a wild mischaracterization to claim B&H > is "one of the largest if not *the* largest worldwide seller of photo > equipment" -- even with annual sales of $100M+* my guess(tm) is that > it's not even close to mass retailers like Walmart, Best Buy, Costco. best buy you say? they also categorize cameras into point & shoot, digital slr and interchangeable lens cameras. thank you for proving my point. not to mention that walmart, best buy and costco sell a *lot* more than just cameras and electronics, so their annual sales (which you conveniently neglect to mention) could easily be higher. let me know when b&h starts selling groceries, clothes, home appliances, etc.
From: nospam on 6 Jul 2010 11:51 In article <uuf636p2gb10qlikqo7qfd3cfvgo3an61a(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >Tell me, John, how do you use those pushbuttons "effectively" enough to come > >anywhere near the speed and accuracy of a manual zoom ring? Since I often > >use compact cameras as well as DSLRs, I would love to know the proper > >technique. > > My objection is to those who put down products simply because they don't > know how to use them effectively. yet you do exactly that. > I've used both high-end mechanical zoom lenses and high-end power zoom > lenses for many years. > > Good as those mechanical zoom lenses are, they aren't significantly > easier and faster for *me* to use than my power zoom lenses. then you lack the necessary skills. > That may be due to the way *I* work -- there may well be others for whom > mechanical zoom lenses work better (and unlike others here I don't try > to project my own skills, styles, and limitations onto others). like hell you don't. > If may also be due to the fact that I've learned how to use multi-speed > power zoom effectively, switching speeds as appropriate. or that you haven't learned how to properly use a mechanical zoom lens. > When a friend complained how the zoom would sometimes overshoot his > desired setting, I found he didn't know there was a slower zoom speed > available -- he thought it was only single speed. My guess(tm) is that > many, perhaps even most, users have the same misconception. so power zoom is faster, except that it overshoots and requires the user to switch to a slow speed to actually be usable. hilarious. > But all that said, it simply comes down to what works for a given > person. Power zoom works great for me, but it might not work great for > you. "Different strokes for different folks." that's fine, it's the rest of your rubbish that's not.
From: tony cooper on 6 Jul 2010 12:06 On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:18:36 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:30:05 -0700, in ><4c324ed1$0$22182$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS ><scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote: > >>On 05/07/10 1:18 PM, Neil Harrington wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>> I agree. It's unfortunate that someone writing advertising copy for Olympus >>> uses the term "point-and-shoot," but I suppose that just shows yet again how >>> terminology misusage becomes popular and then practically standard usage >>> through the magic of the Internet and especially Usenet, where I suspect >>> most such misusage originates. >> >>It's not "unfortunate" it's what some marketing manager at Olympus >>believed would be the best in terms of generating sales. > >He told you that? What's his name? > >>They a) don't >>want to scare off buyers that previously owned a non-ultra zoom, and b) >>don't want buyers that are expecting the functionality and performance >>of a D-SLR to mistakenly believe that the ultra-zooms are a D-SLR >>replacement. > >No, the term is normally used for (and only for) low=end cameras to >distinguish them from high-end cameras. > Exactly. Point and shoots. You can't upgrade your camera by upgrading the term you use to describe it. >>> The term "point-and-shoot" *is* pejorative and inappropriate for most >>> compact cameras today, IMO. Can you point it and shoot? The term doesn't exclude the camera having accessibility to custom settings. It simply describes what can be done with it. A high-end dslr can be used in a point and shoot mode if it has an "automatic" setting. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 6 Jul 2010 19:57
"Mike Russell" <groupsRE(a)MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote in message news:sok3oy8g3u8w$.dlg(a)mike.curvemeister.com... > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote: > >> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, Allen <allent(a)austin.rr.com> wrote: >> >>>Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not >>> identify amateur vs. pro. >>>The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and >>>appears to be enjoying him/herself. >>>Allen >> >> The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro >> only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now >> being >> 100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment >> require more challenging climbs. > > Or a helicopter. > -- > Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com In Tennis it's easy to tell the difference: An amateur jumps over the net. A pro's manager jumps over the gross. -- Peter |