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From: commodorejohn on 21 Jan 2010 18:34 The big question here, I think, is what you hope to accomplish in doing something like this. If you hope to "re-energize the community" by putting a full-featured OS on the 64, I think you're probably barking up the wrong tree. The CBM community likes to see neat stuff done on the old machines, but I doubt that's going to inspire very many people to use their Commodores more than they already are; the same goes for "making it truly productive." The people who want to use their 64 or 128 for serious tasks already do, using the software they're familiar with, and you'd have to offer a lot more than just a nicely-crafted OS to make a real difference; you'd have to provide a suite of applications good enough to get people to ditch geoWrite or whatever else they're using, and you'd have to do better than the alternatives that already exist (any flavor of GEOS, WiNGS, etc.) If, on the other hand, you're wanting to do this to make a name for yourself, you're way off-base. We already have one guy who hangs around here, trying to nag people into using trivial programs he wrote just so he can feel validated. Thankfully, you don't seem to come off like this, and you're ahead of him simply by virtue of apparently knowing some of what you're talking about. That said, there's nothing wrong with doing a project for its own sake, and if this is something you actually want to do, by all means, forge ahead! However, you probably ought to start smaller; get the core features of the OS up and running, and then worry about things like multi-threading or a GEOS compatibility layer. (Also, cloud computing? Really? Who even uses that for anything, outside of corporations?) Remember the old maxim that large programs that work start out as small programs that work, not as large programs that don't work.
From: James Harris on 21 Jan 2010 20:41 On 21 Jan, 11:39, my_nick_h...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > I'm in the planning stages for a new C= O/S. Here are some features , > goals, my reasoning, etc. (in scrambled order) ... .... It's a fascinating idea but could you do it without help? It's often hard to motivate others. FYI there's a newsgroup and an associated public wiki for os development news:alt.os.development http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.development http://aodfaq.wikispaces.com No one has mentioned a Commodore OS yet! James
From: RobertB on 21 Jan 2010 21:24 Hmm, sounds like some of the above are already accomplished in WiNGs or in the proposed Wheels SC. Unfortunately, both require (would have required) a SuperCPU. Truly, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://videocam.net.au/fcug The Other Group of Amigoids http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/ Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network http://www.sccaners.org
From: J. Robertson on 21 Jan 2010 22:11 On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:39:36 -0800 (PST), David Murray <adric22(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >I hate to be the cynical one, but I'll believe it when I see it. By >the way, have you ever tried LUnix? (not to be confused with Linux) >as it does most of what you mention. There's also the Contiki OS. Just throwing that out there since everyone is starting to name all sorts of c64 OS in this thread. Jason
From: AgentFriday on 21 Jan 2010 22:19
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:34:57 -0800, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ><my_nick_here(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:bdagl55en6ao2lai7o9hsdjh0511tlhffd(a)4ax.com... >> So, what y'all think? > >You'll never finish it, but I'm sure you'll learn a lot if you start? :-) > >You essentially want all the features of a "modern" operating system in a >machine with several orders of magnitude less CPU horsepower and memory than >what's available today. Hence, while much of this *can* be largely overcome >with a *lot* of effort and ingenuity on the part of the programmer, the >*number of people with the right skills willing to put in that effort for >little of no payoff* is going to be very, very limited. Yes, I know I'm half delusional, I just haven't decided which half yet :) I don't expect to get all the features on my list, just those that are most achievable and most useful. I sat down to calculate the power of a 64 relative to a modern PC (say a Pentium at 3 GHz). Yikes. I thought this might be an interesting topic, so I'll probably post it in a separate thread. >I second the other guy's suggestion to look at LUnix -- I think he has a good >grasp on what he's doing: He never expects to finish, he's just been playing >around with the idea for the past 15 years now (although there haven't really >been any changes in the past 10 :-) ), seeing how much he can get out of the >C-64. If that's the same sort of thing you'd like to do, that's great -- it >should be a lot of fun. > >---Joel I've been meaning to check out Lunix, thanks for the nudge. And for your thoughts. |