From: mpm on 3 Jan 2010 20:11 On Dec 26 2009, 5:45 pm, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html > > So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. > The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs > in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during > those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are > dumber than they are; I have my doubts. > > The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, > on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I > suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would > be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. > > They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside > screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after > Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my > ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I > think it meant American Express. > > (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the > first two searches were incompetant.) > > Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. > > John As an update -- the AP is reporting tonight that ... " anyone traveling from or though nations regarded as state sponsors of terrorism - as well as "other countries of interest" - will be required to go through enhanced screening. The TSA said those techniques include full-body pat-downs, carry-on bag searches, full- body scanning and explosive detection technology. The State Department lists Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria as state sponsors of terrorism. The "other countries" whose passengers will face enhanced screening include Nigeria, Yemen and Pakistan." So.... I guess if you're from Saudi Arabia (as I recall most of the 9/11 hijaackers were!), then you're NOT subjected to additional screening, other than the random screening that all inbound US passengers are subjected to. To me, that's pretty silly. Did we not learn anything? It really doesn't take much imagination to equate the following two concepts; a) that the war on terror is global, and b) that therefore, the correct strategy is to single out individual nations
From: YD on 3 Jan 2010 22:16 Late at night, by candle light, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> penned this immortal opus: >JosephKK wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:38:50 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Fred Abse wrote: >>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:30:12 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was watching CSI last night and the usual thing happened that pissed >>>>> me off. They were examining a laptop and the baddie "hacked in" and >>>>> deleted the files while they stood helpless. Someone ought to suggest >>>>> they try removing the HDD and copying it first as a matter of routine. >>>> A lot of the "science" in CSI is dubious, Remember the construction worker >>>> who got electrocuted? >>> Maybe I missed that, but electrocuting yourself with 110VAC takes some >>> doing. I've had plenty of 240VAC "bites". >>> >>> I also like the way they can turn a 320x240 cam into a HD image with a >>> bit of "processing". "Hey - can you blow up the image of that car number >>> plate reflected in that guy's sunglasses." >> >> That kind of detail expandability was actually possible with old >> Kodacolor 25 ASA. Nothing commercially available since has matched it. > >That must be near the quantum limit. Actually it's due to the extremely fine grain of the low sensitivity films. Needs some very expensive optics to do it justice. - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail.
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 3 Jan 2010 23:44 YD wrote: > Late at night, by candle light, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax > <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> penned this immortal opus: > >> JosephKK wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:38:50 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Fred Abse wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:30:12 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was watching CSI last night and the usual thing happened that pissed >>>>>> me off. They were examining a laptop and the baddie "hacked in" and >>>>>> deleted the files while they stood helpless. Someone ought to suggest >>>>>> they try removing the HDD and copying it first as a matter of routine. >>>>> A lot of the "science" in CSI is dubious, Remember the construction worker >>>>> who got electrocuted? >>>> Maybe I missed that, but electrocuting yourself with 110VAC takes some >>>> doing. I've had plenty of 240VAC "bites". >>>> >>>> I also like the way they can turn a 320x240 cam into a HD image with a >>>> bit of "processing". "Hey - can you blow up the image of that car number >>>> plate reflected in that guy's sunglasses." >>> That kind of detail expandability was actually possible with old >>> Kodacolor 25 ASA. Nothing commercially available since has matched it. >> That must be near the quantum limit. > > Actually it's due to the extremely fine grain of the low sensitivity > films. Needs some very expensive optics to do it justice. > > - YD. Even so, it must be close to the diffraction limit of light, as well as being a very efficient sensor. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: JosephKK on 4 Jan 2010 02:24 On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:00:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:27:26 -0800) it happened John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in ><njbsj59kc97ha7ep0vaekdbvhp6un04t2h(a)4ax.com>: > >>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:42:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:30:26 -0600) it happened krw >>><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in <5ggqj515cgf8gagdgpgrpovnkit2qukd8f(a)4ax.com>: >>> >>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:19:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:12:40 -0600) it happened krw >>>>><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in <eefqj557grpu0ccd81gr11qdlt1pers80v(a)4ax.com>: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:07:46 +0000, richard >>>>>><mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:55:24 -0600) it happened Jim Yanik >>>>>>>> <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in <Xns9CEED514B6872jyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; >>>>>>>>>hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and >>>>>>>>>attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not sure how well a plane would take some stray bullets... >>>>>>>> remember the movie 'Goldfinger'? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's Jim Yanik of the lunatic gun lobby. >>>>>> >>>>>>The only lunatics here are the leftist weenies who want to violate our >>>>>>civil rights, lunatic. >>>>> >>>>>You have no civil rights, facist GW Bush took them all aways :-) >>>> >>>>Yes, we all know you're one of the lunatics. >>> >>>hehe, at least I am not one of thode repugebican retarts :0) >>> Look at this for a quote on their intellect: >>> ftp://panteltje.com/Bush_a_man_without_vision.jpg >>>LOL >> >>Have you never picked up and tried to use a camera or binocs that had >>lens covers on? The difference is that there weren't a swarm of >>photographers ready to snap every instant of your life and put the >>worst on front pages. >> >>Europeans don't hate Bush for having no vision. > >No because he a is mass murder, actuall ywe do no theate the poor guy, >but many want to just hang him. Dang John, you have Jan spluttering. > >>Europeans hate vision, > >Yea, that is why we have the Euro, and a smaller deficit then the USA. > > >>and they hate W for having too much of it. They hated Reagan for the >>same reason, excepting the Poles and the Czechs and the *zistans and >>maybe the East Germans. And maybe even the Russians. >> >>John > >Have you ever been in Europe?
From: JosephKK on 4 Jan 2010 09:01
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:13:15 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote: >On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:38:54 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) >wrote: > >>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:12:11 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) >>>wrote: >>> >>>>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:51:04 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>>>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In my personal view, democracy, at it's basis can never work. >>>>>>>>If you give the people control of what happens, then you will get politicians who >>>>>>>>address the masses, and grab power for their own or some industrial consortium, >>>>>>>>examples are Adolf Hitler, George W Bush. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hitler had unlimited power and used it to slaughter tens of millions. >>>>>>>Bush was elected and acted under the Constitution, with the assent of >>>>>>>an elected Congress, and left office voluntarily when his term was >>>>>>>over. You can't see the difference? >>>>>> >>>>>>There is no difference. Hitler was elected and acted within the laws >>>>>>that where set by his government. >>>>> >>>>>Oh. Gosh. Then stuffing six million people into ovens was perfecly >>>>>legal. >>>> >>>>Just as legal putting people into an overseas prison without trial and >>>>torturing people in countries where there are no laws against torture. >>> >>>Your sense of moral relativism is impressive. And ghastly. >> >>It depends on the point of view. Through history the winner of a >>conflict is the good one and the loser the evil one. Just before and >>during WWII killing the jews was a good thing in the eyes of many (not >>all!) Germans because their government told them so. A lot of people >>think that putting moslim extremists in jail without a trial is a good >>thing because their government told them so. You may call that a >>horrifying comparison I find it horrifying that very few people see >>the parallels here. We're on a slippery slope here. I wouldn't like to >>find myself in medieval times where an inquisitor can knock on your >>door any moment. > >As I recall it, the Jews weren't trying to kill anyone. > >If you think Islamists are just nice folk, I'll have to call you a bit >of a fool. > >Fortunately they'll swarm all over Europe first. > > ...Jim Thompson And conduct their own inquisitions and crusades. |