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From: John Larkin on 26 Dec 2009 17:45 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are dumber than they are; I have my doubts. The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I think it meant American Express. (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the first two searches were incompetant.) Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. John
From: Adrian C on 26 Dec 2009 18:05 John Larkin wrote: > The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, > on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I > suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would > be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the composition of your last spray of beauty product. They don't have those in many airports yet. Maybe they should.... But I have a cheaper alternative. A chamber constructed of a few tons of reinforced concrete and lead is placed just after the departure gate. Each passenger walks through it, one at a time, and is quickly subjected to various EMC and other stimuli that would naturally set off their explosive device if carrying. The innocent pass through unscathed, and the miscreants would be immediately caught and dealt with. Oh, where is that Patent brief.... -- Adrian C
From: Greegor on 26 Dec 2009 18:15 On Dec 26, 4:45 pm, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html > > So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. > The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs > in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during > those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are > dumber than they are; I have my doubts. > > The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, > on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I > suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would > be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. > > They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside > screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after > Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my > ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I > think it meant American Express. > > (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the > first two searches were incompetant.) > > Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. > > John Aren't you looking forward to nationalized health care and Nanny State socialism? Remember that Roosevelt's "2nd Bill of Rights" was never actually passed or even voted on. It's just creeping on in! As you said, the third search presumes that the first two were incompetent! It's just proof that the bureaucracy itself is self aware of it's own incapacity.
From: Jan Panteltje on 26 Dec 2009 18:16 On a sunny day (Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:05:02 +0000) it happened Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote in <7pnj4mFbqeU1(a)mid.individual.net>: >John Larkin wrote: > >> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. > >Seen the walk-in explosive detectors they have around the Statue of >Liberty exhibit? The type that puff your clothes and work out the >composition of your last spray of beauty product. > >They don't have those in many airports yet. Maybe they should.... > > >But I have a cheaper alternative. > >A chamber constructed of a few tons of reinforced concrete and lead is >placed just after the departure gate. Each passenger walks through it, >one at a time, and is quickly subjected to various EMC and other stimuli >that would naturally set off their explosive device if carrying. The >innocent pass through unscathed, and the miscreants would be immediately >caught and dealt with. > >Oh, where is that Patent brief.... Well, he mixed the explosives in flight it seems, so the ingredients may have been hard to trigger, but you could kill innocent people with a pacemaker for example. What I find a bit hard to swallow is that they keep him in a hospital... I would question him, let him suffer, and then shoot him, after all he tried to kill more then 250 people. I do not like all that security stuff. There is always a risk in life, more people die in traffic each year.. I know Schiphol airport pretty well, worked there too. Had security clearance too. Strange they did not check anybody at that gate, maybe just a metal detector.
From: John Larkin on 26 Dec 2009 18:39
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:15:21 -0800 (PST), Greegor <greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Dec 26, 4:45�pm, John Larkin ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/us/27security.html >> >> So a guy tried to detonate a bomb during the last hour of a flight. >> The TSA morons thus conclude that all terrorists detonate their bombs >> in the last hour, so make it illegal to get out of your seat during >> those 60 minutes. They are clearly assuming that the bombers are >> dumber than they are; I have my doubts. >> >> The real issue is why they let a Nigerian, festooned with explosives, >> on a terrorist watch list, onto the plane in the first place. I >> suppose searching people who look like they might be terrorists would >> be "profiling" or "invasion or privacy" or something. >> >> They did give my 90-year old father a full, very rude pull-aside >> screening because he had a one-way ticket out of Louisiana after >> Katrina. I once got super-harassed and triple searched because my >> ticket had a "payment basis" of "A", and nobody knew what "A" meant. I >> think it meant American Express. >> >> (If they search you three times, they seem to be assuming that the >> first two searches were incompetant.) >> >> Idiots. Always fighting the last battle. >> >> John > >Aren't you looking forward to nationalized health >care and Nanny State socialism? > >Remember that Roosevelt's "2nd Bill of Rights" >was never actually passed or even voted on. > >It's just creeping on in! > >As you said, the third search presumes that the >first two were incompetent! > >It's just proof that the bureaucracy itself >is self aware of it's own incapacity. The Feds clearly screwed up on this one. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126186577980706007.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories So the response? Start doing their jobs properly? No, of course not; their response is to inconvenience us more, to make it look like they know what they're doing. John |