From: Nico Coesel on 1 Jan 2010 17:38 John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:12:11 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) >wrote: > >>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:51:04 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) >>>wrote: >>> >>>>John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>In my personal view, democracy, at it's basis can never work. >>>>>>If you give the people control of what happens, then you will get politicians who >>>>>>address the masses, and grab power for their own or some industrial consortium, >>>>>>examples are Adolf Hitler, George W Bush. >>>>> >>>>>Hitler had unlimited power and used it to slaughter tens of millions. >>>>>Bush was elected and acted under the Constitution, with the assent of >>>>>an elected Congress, and left office voluntarily when his term was >>>>>over. You can't see the difference? >>>> >>>>There is no difference. Hitler was elected and acted within the laws >>>>that where set by his government. >>> >>>Oh. Gosh. Then stuffing six million people into ovens was perfecly >>>legal. >> >>Just as legal putting people into an overseas prison without trial and >>torturing people in countries where there are no laws against torture. > >Your sense of moral relativism is impressive. And ghastly. It depends on the point of view. Through history the winner of a conflict is the good one and the loser the evil one. Just before and during WWII killing the jews was a good thing in the eyes of many (not all!) Germans because their government told them so. A lot of people think that putting moslim extremists in jail without a trial is a good thing because their government told them so. You may call that a horrifying comparison I find it horrifying that very few people see the parallels here. We're on a slippery slope here. I wouldn't like to find myself in medieval times where an inquisitor can knock on your door any moment. -- Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... nico(a)nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Michael A. Terrell on 1 Jan 2010 17:42 krw wrote: > > On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:42:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:30:26 -0600) it happened krw > ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in <5ggqj515cgf8gagdgpgrpovnkit2qukd8f(a)4ax.com>: > > > >>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:19:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje > >><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>>On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:12:40 -0600) it happened krw > >>><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in <eefqj557grpu0ccd81gr11qdlt1pers80v(a)4ax.com>: > >>> > >>>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:07:46 +0000, richard > >>>><mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Jan Panteltje wrote: > >>>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:55:24 -0600) it happened Jim Yanik > >>>>>> <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> wrote in <Xns9CEED514B6872jyaniklocalnetcom(a)216.168.3.44>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I prefer Archie Bunker's solution; > >>>>>>>hand out handguns to everyone aboard;when the bad guys stand up and > >>>>>>>attack,everyone else draws and shoots them full of holes. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am not sure how well a plane would take some stray bullets... > >>>>>> remember the movie 'Goldfinger'? > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>It's Jim Yanik of the lunatic gun lobby. > >>>> > >>>>The only lunatics here are the leftist weenies who want to violate our > >>>>civil rights, lunatic. > >>> > >>>You have no civil rights, facist GW Bush took them all aways :-) > >> > >>Yes, we all know you're one of the lunatics. > > > >hehe, at least I am not one of thode repugebican retarts :0) > > ...and he brags about being a dumbshit. > > > Look at this for a quote on their intellect: > > ftp://panteltje.com/Bush_a_man_without_vision.jpg > > There are none so blind... As a flock of Eurosheep... -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 1 Jan 2010 17:53 Jan Panteltje wrote: > > Now ask yourself: > Why the f*ck would they bomb a TV station? Why don't you tell us: Why did North Vietman blow up an AFRTS TV station? -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
From: Nico Coesel on 1 Jan 2010 18:02 John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >Six weeks driving around France and Switzerland (Paris sucks), How can Paris suck? Only thing I can think of is the fact the French are not speaking English very well but that has improved a lot during the last 20 years. >multiple trips to London and Oxford (London is great, Oxford is >magical), weeks driving around Ireland, a month in Moscow (working!) >in the Soviet days, a few other excursions. Japan, too, which was >wonderful. Next trip will likely be to Belfast and vicinity. Mo wants >to show me Italy; she lived in Germany for a year and traveled Europe >a lot. Berlin is also nice. Been there last year. I'm planning a trip through Italy by car. First down the east coast (Pisa) to Rome then back up to Verona en Venica. Maybe a short stop at lake Garda (the east coast is interesting to drive by car driving around the whole lake takes a day). Maybe this spring or next year. Spring is the best time to visit any European country/city. -- Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... nico(a)nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jan Panteltje on 1 Jan 2010 18:40
On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:47:14 -0600) it happened krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in <oonsj51r2ri06bo8ojvhd0ko8v6pg2ke6e(a)4ax.com>: >On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:34:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje ><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:48:11 -0800) it happened Fred Abse >><excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in >><pan.2010.01.01.18.24.42.929008(a)invalid.invalid>: >> >>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:51:06 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> >>>> freedom a Gorbatjov bought by Ronald Reagan destroyed. >>> >>>The well-known, caring, benevolent GULAG? >> >>Well, propaganda always shows a single POV. > >There was a kinder, gentler, side of the Gulags? > >>>"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. >> >>You need to read up on electricity too. > >You need to read up on humor, as well as history. That *was* humor, but you did not get it :-) |