From: Michael Coburn on 23 Feb 2010 16:41 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:38:51 -0800, Benj wrote: > On Feb 23, 4:09 am, "Cwatters" > <colin.wattersNOS...(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > >> From what I can tell it's "just" a fuel cell. No doubt people like >> Google are interested so they can run it off biofuel. > > Right. Electricity from food. Burning food for energy has already begun > to work out real well. Typical oil company shill response. There are a lot more biofuel efforts that use non food resources these days. Corn was a disaster and it is the gift that keeps on giving for the oil company shills. -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
From: habshi on 23 Feb 2010 17:20 Its not really an energy source , more an energy converter to its most useful form - electricity/ If a fridge sized bloom box can really deliver so many kilowatts it could lead to electric powered jumbo planes. excerpt America today, eBay's five boxes run on landfill waste-based bio-gas and generate more power than the company's 3,000 solar panels, according to eBay CEO John Donahoe, who spoke to "60 Minutes." When averaged out over seven days, the Bloom box generates five times as much power that eBay can use, Donahoe said. What kind of fuel does it use? Fossil fuels like natural gas or renewable fuels such as landfill gas, or bio-gas, and solar. Who is using Bloom boxes right now? Google, Fedex, Wal-Mart, Staples, the San Francisco Airport, and the CIA, to name some of the most high-profile companies and organizations. A total of 20 companies are testing the box in California today. A four-unit box, using natural gas, has been powering a Google data center for 18 months. Here's a yardstick: a 30,000-square-foot office building would use four of these boxes.
From: J. Clarke on 23 Feb 2010 17:41 On 2/23/2010 4:41 PM, Michael Coburn wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:38:51 -0800, Benj wrote: > >> On Feb 23, 4:09 am, "Cwatters" >> <colin.wattersNOS...(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: >> >>> From what I can tell it's "just" a fuel cell. No doubt people like >>> Google are interested so they can run it off biofuel. >> >> Right. Electricity from food. Burning food for energy has already begun >> to work out real well. > > Typical oil company shill response. There are a lot more biofuel efforts > that use non food resources these days. Corn was a disaster and it is > the gift that keeps on giving for the oil company shills. So how much of this biofuel comes from non-cropland resources? That's the issue.
From: J. Clarke on 23 Feb 2010 17:40 On 2/23/2010 9:41 AM, Tim Heise wrote: > "Benj" <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net> wrote in message > news:e45cd254-6fc8-4f91-ba72-ee76d9590a58(a)g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 23, 4:09 am, "Cwatters" > <colin.wattersNOS...(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > >> From what I can tell it's "just" a fuel cell. No doubt people like Google >> are interested so they can run it off biofuel. > > Right. Electricity from food. Burning food for energy has already > begun to work out real well. > > > Prime fuel can be junk food, that nasty stuff making our kids obese. > Junk-food-to-energy can keep our kids thin and help get us off foreign oil. So you think farms grow "junk food"? Hint--biofuel isn't made from stuff you buy at McDonalds.
From: jimp on 23 Feb 2010 18:01
In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > Its not really an energy source , more an energy converter to its > most useful form - electricity/ The most useful form of energy is heavy hydrocarbons, which can be easily stored and converted to electricity if that's what you want, but you can't go the other way very easily. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |