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From: doug on 16 Sep 2009 14:29 gabydewilde wrote: > On Sep 14, 11:50 am, "Cwatters" wrote: > >>[snip wikipedia disinformation] > > > some never learn gaby is the living proof of that.
From: gabydewilde on 16 Sep 2009 13:32 On Sep 14, 12:06 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated > > > compressed gases? > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not combusted, only > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat. HEAT<------- > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those > > introduced to him. > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer. > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2] > > (god has purpose?) > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp > > > _____ > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive > the electromagnet and coil. > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the > coil and is transformed into heat. > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it. > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper. > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between > metalcore > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not > accelerated. > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two > gaschaimbers > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the > second > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran that > exchange pressurised gas into heat) > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states. > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles > of being redirected back to the watertank. > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the > electromagnet. . > ++ > +++++ > ++++++ > MOTION > + > + > I-------------------------------I > I I > I I > I ( ( O ) ) I > I-------------------------------I > I::::::::.I > I:::::::::I > ---- > IXXXXXI---- + > ---- > IXXXXXI---- - > ---- IXXXXXI---- > ---- I:::::::::I---- > I -----I:::::::::I---- > I -----I:::::::::I---- > V -----I:::::::::I---- > _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________ > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I > I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I > I========================================I > I > HEAT I > I WATER VESSLE I > I > I > I______________________________________________I > V Waterturbine > V > V > V > V V > V V > __________V___________ > I I > I Electric generator I > I > I + > I_____________________I - > Ok i admit it is a steamship ;) Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D
From: Cwatters on 19 Sep 2009 14:18 "gabydewilde" <gdewilde(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8f265af1-c613-4b37-9a99-49682548e48a(a)n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > Here is an old page of mine I just put back up. > http://go-here.nl/gdewilde-anti-gravity Well I read it. Didn't understand a word though.
From: Cwatters on 19 Sep 2009 14:24 "gabydewilde" <gdewilde(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:98493b74-72a0-4ba9-a185-ac6078e369eb(a)g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... On Sep 14, 11:50 am, "Cwatters" wrote: > [snip wikipedia disinformation] > >some never learn Huh? I don't think I've contributed to wikipedia on this subject. I did see his Christmas lecture though. I once made the same mistake he did. The key is that gyros produce torque not a linear force. Try to build an antigrav machine and the gyro just bends the machine, it doesn't and can't lift it.
From: JT on 14 Oct 2009 22:36
On 16 Sep, 19:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 14, 12:06 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is > > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the > > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated > > > > compressed gases? > > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not combusted, only > > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat. HEAT<------- > > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end > > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the > > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those > > > introduced to him. > > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was > > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer. > > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2] > > > (god has purpose?) > > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp > > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp > > > > _____ > > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl > > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive > > the electromagnet and coil. > > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the > > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be > > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the > > coil and is transformed into heat. > > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it. > > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper. > > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between > > metalcore > > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not > > accelerated. > > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two > > gaschaimbers > > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran > > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the > > second > > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran that > > exchange pressurised gas into heat) > > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to > > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by > > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as > > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two > > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states. > > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran > > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles > > of being redirected back to the watertank. > > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the > > electromagnet. . > > ++ > > +++++ > > ++++++ > > MOTION > > + > > + > > I-------------------------------I > > I I > > I I > > I ( ( O ) ) I > > I-------------------------------I > > I::::::::.I > > I:::::::::I > > ---- > > IXXXXXI---- + > > ---- > > IXXXXXI---- - > > ---- IXXXXXI---- > > ---- I:::::::::I---- > > I -----I:::::::::I---- > > I -----I:::::::::I---- > > V -----I:::::::::I---- > > _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________ > > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I > > I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I > > I========================================I > > I > > HEAT I > > I WATER VESSLE I > > I > > I > > I______________________________________________I > > V Waterturbine > > V > > V > > V > > V V > > V V > > __________V___________ > > I I > > I Electric generator I > > I > > I + > > I_____________________I - > > Ok i admit it is a steamship ;) > > Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D How about this idea Gaby, you have rigid enclosed rigid membran, and a compressor pumpin fluid against one side of the membran. Basicly a recycling fountain mounted on one side of a discshaped object, the motion will be just similar to a jetstream hitting a watersurface. You could have a very soft spongelike/higher viscosity grid that is hit by the water jet. That way always more liquid hold on one side of disc. The force direction of the jetstream will be direct to the mound of jet on the compressor side at the other side of disc most forces travelling like perpendicular waves over spongelike visocity surface. Now of course everyone will say that the forces equal in each direction, but the water molecules is redirected into perpendicular motion when the jetthrust hit the watery sponge surface, but the comressor mound recoil forces is directed in straight angle with respect to jetstream. A ship for spongebob and fountain lovers ;) JT |