From: JT on
On 15 Okt, 04:36, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 19:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 12:06 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is
> > > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the
> > > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated
> > > > > compressed gases?
>
> > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not  combusted, only
> > > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat.  HEAT<-------
>
> > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end
> > > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the
> > > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those
> > > > introduced to him.
>
> > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was
> > > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer.
>
> > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2]
> > > > (god has purpose?)
>
> > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp
> > > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
>
> > > > _____
> > > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl
>
> > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive
> > > the electromagnet and coil.
>
> > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the
> > > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be
> > > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the
> > > coil and is transformed into heat.
> > > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it.
> > > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper.
> > > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between
> > > metalcore
> > > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not
> > > accelerated.
> > > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two
> > > gaschaimbers
> > > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran
> > > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the
> > > second
> > > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran  that
> > > exchange pressurised gas into heat)
> > > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to
> > > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by
> > > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as
> > > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two
> > > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states.
> > > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran
> > > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles
> > > of being redirected back to  the watertank.
> > > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the
> > > electromagnet. .
> > >                                     ++
> > >                                  +++++
> > >                                 ++++++
> > >                                 MOTION
> > >                                      +
> > >                                      +
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I         ( (  O  ) )          I
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                                  I::::::::.I
> > >                                  I:::::::::I
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                     +
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                      -
> > >                             ---- IXXXXXI----
> > >                             ---- I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >             V              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >   _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________
> > > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I
> > >  I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I
> > >  I========================================I
> > >  I
> > > HEAT                                        I
> > >  I                       WATER VESSLE                               I
> > > I
> > > I
> > > I______________________________________________I
> > >  V                         Waterturbine
> > > V
> > >     V
> > > V
> > >            V                                                     V
> > >                        V                           V
> > >                        __________V___________
> > >                        I                                     I
> > >                        I   Electric generator        I
> > >                        I
> > > I                 +
> > >                        I_____________________I                  -
> > > Ok i admit  it is a steamship ;)
>
> > Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D
>
> How about this idea Gaby, you have rigid enclosed rigid membran, and a
> compressor pumpin fluid against one side of the membran.
>
> Basicly a recycling fountain mounted on one side of a discshaped
> object, the motion will be just similar to a jetstream hitting a
> watersurface.
>
> You could have a very soft spongelike/higher viscosity grid that is
> hit by the water jet. That way always more liquid hold on one side of
> disc. The force direction of the jetstream will be direct to the mound
> of jet on the compressor side at the other side of disc most forces
> travelling like perpendicular waves over spongelike visocity surface.
> Now of course everyone will say that the forces equal in each
> direction, but the water molecules is redirected into perpendicular
> motion when the jetthrust hit the watery sponge surface, but the
> comressor mound recoil forces is directed in straight angle with
> respect to jetstream.
>
> A ship for spongebob and fountain lovers ;)
>
> JT

It is of course mounted inside the discshaped membran.

JT
From: JT on
On 15 Okt, 04:36, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 19:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 12:06 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is
> > > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the
> > > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated
> > > > > compressed gases?
>
> > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not  combusted, only
> > > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat.  HEAT<-------
>
> > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end
> > > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the
> > > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those
> > > > introduced to him.
>
> > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was
> > > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer.
>
> > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2]
> > > > (god has purpose?)
>
> > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp
> > > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
>
> > > > _____
> > > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl
>
> > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive
> > > the electromagnet and coil.
>
> > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the
> > > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be
> > > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the
> > > coil and is transformed into heat.
> > > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it.
> > > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper.
> > > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between
> > > metalcore
> > > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not
> > > accelerated.
> > > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two
> > > gaschaimbers
> > > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran
> > > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the
> > > second
> > > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran  that
> > > exchange pressurised gas into heat)
> > > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to
> > > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by
> > > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as
> > > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two
> > > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states.
> > > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran
> > > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles
> > > of being redirected back to  the watertank.
> > > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the
> > > electromagnet. .
> > >                                     ++
> > >                                  +++++
> > >                                 ++++++
> > >                                 MOTION
> > >                                      +
> > >                                      +
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I         ( (  O  ) )          I
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                                  I::::::::.I
> > >                                  I:::::::::I
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                     +
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                      -
> > >                             ---- IXXXXXI----
> > >                             ---- I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >             V              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >   _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________
> > > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I
> > >  I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I
> > >  I========================================I
> > >  I
> > > HEAT                                        I
> > >  I                       WATER VESSLE                               I
> > > I
> > > I
> > > I______________________________________________I
> > >  V                         Waterturbine
> > > V
> > >     V
> > > V
> > >            V                                                     V
> > >                        V                           V
> > >                        __________V___________
> > >                        I                                     I
> > >                        I   Electric generator        I
> > >                        I
> > > I                 +
> > >                        I_____________________I                  -
> > > Ok i admit  it is a steamship ;)
>
> > Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D
>
> How about this idea Gaby, you have rigid enclosed rigid membran, and a
> compressor pumpin fluid against one side of the membran.
>
> Basicly a recycling fountain mounted on one side of a discshaped
> object, the motion will be just similar to a jetstream hitting a
> watersurface.
>
> You could have a very soft spongelike/higher viscosity grid that is
> hit by the water jet. That way always more liquid hold on one side of
> disc. The force direction of the jetstream will be direct to the mound
> of jet on the compressor side at the other side of disc most forces
> travelling like perpendicular waves over spongelike visocity surface.
> Now of course everyone will say that the forces equal in each
> direction, but the water molecules is redirected into perpendicular
> motion when the jetthrust hit the watery sponge surface, but the
> comressor mound recoil forces is directed in straight angle with
> respect to jetstream.
>
> A ship for spongebob and fountain lovers ;)
>
> JT- Dölj citerad text -
>
> - Visa citerad text -

Russian steamship?

You think it run on dietcoke with a OC MPMM generator ;)
Well if you want to direct the force just point the hose the other way
as the fireman said.

JT
From: JT on
On 16 Sep, 18:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 14, 12:06 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is
> > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the
> > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated
> > > > compressed gases?
>
> > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not  combusted, only
> > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat.  HEAT<-------
>
> > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end
> > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the
> > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those
> > > introduced to him.
>
> > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was
> > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer.
>
> > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2]
> > > (god has purpose?)
>
> > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp
> > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
>
> > > _____
> > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl
>
> > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive
> > the electromagnet and coil.
>
> > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the
> > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be
> > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the
> > coil and is transformed into heat.
> > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it.
> > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper.
> > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between
> > metalcore
> > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not
> > accelerated.
> > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two
> > gaschaimbers
> > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran
> > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the
> > second
> > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran  that
> > exchange pressurised gas into heat)
> > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to
> > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by
> > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as
> > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two
> > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states.
> > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran
> > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles
> > of being redirected back to  the watertank.
> > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the
> > electromagnet. .
> >                                     ++
> >                                  +++++
> >                                 ++++++
> >                                 MOTION
> >                                      +
> >                                      +
> >                       I-------------------------------I
> >                       I                               I
> >                       I                               I
> >                       I         ( (  O  ) )          I
> >                       I-------------------------------I
> >                                  I::::::::.I
> >                                  I:::::::::I
> >                             ----
> > IXXXXXI----                                                     +
> >                             ----
> > IXXXXXI----                                                      -
> >                             ---- IXXXXXI----
> >                             ---- I:::::::::I----
> >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> >             V              -----I:::::::::I----
> >   _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________
> > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I
> >  I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I
> >  I========================================I
> >  I
> > HEAT                                        I
> >  I                       WATER VESSLE                               I
> > I
> > I
> > I______________________________________________I
> >  V                         Waterturbine
> > V
> >     V
> > V
> >            V                                                     V
> >                        V                           V
> >                        __________V___________
> >                        I                                     I
> >                        I   Electric generator        I
> >                        I
> > I                 +
> >                        I_____________________I                  -
> > Ok i admit  it is a steamship ;)
>
> Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D

I've been thinking some more about a inertial propulsion design.

The system needs a cooler and an evaporator and a comressor/pump (and
of course an engine to drive it) mounted within a closed system
between two plates "basically a membran with a cold side and a warm
side.

The thrust from the top mounted pump is directed downwards the lower
plate is a plate evaporator so no waterthrust actually reach the
plate. The vaporised steam raise the pressure inside membran and heat
to level by raising upwards upperplate. Above the pump is a pipecooler
connected to the upperplate and with a vessel connected to the pump
inlet valve.

You get basicly a waterpiston directed downwards, with a right angle
recoil force upwards but the thrust force is leveled out into a
chaotic force by the vaporizer, where molecules pushing in every
direction and the plate will have a bigger force upwards to counteract
gravith and maybe levitate.

JT


From: JT on
On 25 Okt, 03:45, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 18:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 12:06 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is
> > > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the
> > > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated
> > > > > compressed gases?
>
> > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not  combusted, only
> > > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat.  HEAT<-------
>
> > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end
> > > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the
> > > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those
> > > > introduced to him.
>
> > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was
> > > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer.
>
> > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2]
> > > > (god has purpose?)
>
> > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp
> > > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
>
> > > > _____
> > > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl
>
> > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive
> > > the electromagnet and coil.
>
> > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the
> > > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be
> > > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the
> > > coil and is transformed into heat.
> > > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it.
> > > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper.
> > > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between
> > > metalcore
> > > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not
> > > accelerated.
> > > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two
> > > gaschaimbers
> > > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran
> > > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the
> > > second
> > > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran  that
> > > exchange pressurised gas into heat)
> > > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to
> > > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by
> > > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as
> > > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two
> > > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states.
> > > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran
> > > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles
> > > of being redirected back to  the watertank.
> > > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the
> > > electromagnet. .
> > >                                     ++
> > >                                  +++++
> > >                                 ++++++
> > >                                 MOTION
> > >                                      +
> > >                                      +
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I         ( (  O  ) )          I
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                                  I::::::::.I
> > >                                  I:::::::::I
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                     +
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                      -
> > >                             ---- IXXXXXI----
> > >                             ---- I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >             V              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >   _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________
> > > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I
> > >  I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I
> > >  I========================================I
> > >  I
> > > HEAT                                        I
> > >  I                       WATER VESSLE                               I
> > > I
> > > I
> > > I______________________________________________I
> > >  V                         Waterturbine
> > > V
> > >     V
> > > V
> > >            V                                                     V
> > >                        V                           V
> > >                        __________V___________
> > >                        I                                     I
> > >                        I   Electric generator        I
> > >                        I
> > > I                 +
> > >                        I_____________________I                  -
> > > Ok i admit  it is a steamship ;)
>
> > Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D
>
> I've been thinking some more about a inertial propulsion design.
>
> The system needs a cooler and an evaporator and a comressor/pump (and
> of course an engine to drive it) mounted within a closed system
> between two plates "basically a membran with a cold side and a warm
> side.
>
> The thrust from the top mounted pump is directed downwards the lower
> plate is a plate evaporator so no waterthrust actually reach the
> plate. The vaporised steam raise the pressure inside membran and heat
> to level by raising upwards upperplate. Above the pump is a pipecooler
> connected to the upperplate and with a vessel connected to the pump
> inlet valve.
>
> You get basicly a waterpiston directed downwards, with a right angle
> recoil force upwards but the thrust force is leveled out into a
> chaotic force by the vaporizer, where molecules pushing in every
> direction and the plate will have a bigger force upwards to counteract
> gravith and maybe levitate.
>
> JT

Ok i admit it is a flying refrigerator
From: JT on
On 25 Okt, 03:45, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 18:32, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 12:06 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Sep, 23:37, gabydewilde <gdewi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 13, 4:56 pm,JT<jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Noone even remotly tried to explain why a closed system that is
> > > > > kinetically accelerated within can not result in momentum for the
> > > > > recoil and thermal heat spreading over a membran for the accelerated
> > > > > compressed gases?
>
> > > > > I do not speak of a fueled system the gases is not  combusted, only
> > > > > pressurized with exhited molecules exchangin heat.  HEAT<-------
>
> > > > This[1] is the Heretic program about Eric Laithewaite towards the end
> > > > of his career. It explains the battle he had trying to get the
> > > > scientific community to accept or even investigate his ideas and those
> > > > introduced to him.
>
> > > > Silly things like a gyroscope and a maglev train. I suppose he was
> > > > also a heavier than air flying apparatus believer.
>
> > > > Eventually he defeats the establishment by giving a xmas lecture.[2]
> > > > (god has purpose?)
>
> > > > [1] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp
> > > > [2] -http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
>
> > > > _____
> > > > Heavier than air flying machines will be proven to be a hoax.http://blog.go-here.nl
>
> > > Of course the generated heat could be tranfered to actually help drive
> > > the electromagnet and coil.
>
> > > I guess i was thinking abit about your idea Sue, decided to use the
> > > momentum from recoil for accelleration and let the "bullet" be
> > > transformed inot excited gasmolecules that that is pressurised by the
> > > coil and is transformed into heat.
> > > Below a crue ASCI sketch, doesn't really work in googles does it.
> > > 1. Heavy metal surrounded by damper.
> > > 2. Small gaschaimber under pressure used for damping between
> > > metalcore
> > > and coil, coil reach equibrillium between the two chambers when not
> > > accelerated.
> > > 3. The X represent coil in equilibrium by the pressure between two
> > > gaschaimbers
> > > 4. Second pressurised gaschaimber with heat exchange membran
> > > (The coilseparated gaschaimbers resides within a iron tube, the
> > > second
> > > chaimber extends into a discshaped chaimber with a membran  that
> > > exchange pressurised gas into heat)
> > > 5. Around the tube is a electromagnet similar to railguns to
> > > accelerate the coil and exite the molecules into produce heat by
> > > pressurize the gas. The smaller gaschaimber above do only serve as
> > > piston a rubber damper when the electromagnetic pulse stops the two
> > > gaschaimbers try to reach equillibrium between their pressure states.
> > > 7. A water cistern/vessel against the heat exchanging material/mebran
> > > 8 A water turbin where the high pressured water spin turbin and coles
> > > of being redirected back to  the watertank.
> > > 9 A generator that redirects the produced energy to the
> > > electromagnet. .
> > >                                     ++
> > >                                  +++++
> > >                                 ++++++
> > >                                 MOTION
> > >                                      +
> > >                                      +
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I                               I
> > >                       I         ( (  O  ) )          I
> > >                       I-------------------------------I
> > >                                  I::::::::.I
> > >                                  I:::::::::I
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                     +
> > >                             ----
> > > IXXXXXI----                                                      -
> > >                             ---- IXXXXXI----
> > >                             ---- I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >              I              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >             V              -----I:::::::::I----
> > >   _______________ -----I:::::::::I----___________________
> > > I<::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::>I
> > >  I<::::::::::more gas in pressure chaimber::::::::::::::::::::>I
> > >  I========================================I
> > >  I
> > > HEAT                                        I
> > >  I                       WATER VESSLE                               I
> > > I
> > > I
> > > I______________________________________________I
> > >  V                         Waterturbine
> > > V
> > >     V
> > > V
> > >            V                                                     V
> > >                        V                           V
> > >                        __________V___________
> > >                        I                                     I
> > >                        I   Electric generator        I
> > >                        I
> > > I                 +
> > >                        I_____________________I                  -
> > > Ok i admit  it is a steamship ;)
>
> > Well, build it. Then we know if she works :D
>
> I've been thinking some more about ainertialpropulsiondesign.
>
> The system needs a cooler and an evaporator and a comressor/pump (and
> of course an engine to drive it) mounted within a closed system
> between two plates "basically a membran with a cold side and a warm
> side.
>
> The thrust from the top mounted pump is directed downwards the lower
> plate is a plate evaporator so no waterthrust actually reach the
> plate. The vaporised steam raise the pressure inside membran and heat
> to level by raising upwards upperplate. Above the pump is a pipecooler
> connected to the upperplate and with a vessel connected to the pump
> inlet valve.
>
> You get basicly a waterpiston directed downwards, with a right angle
> recoil force upwards but the thrust force is leveled out into a
> chaotic force by the vaporizer, where molecules pushing in every
> direction and the plate will have a bigger force upwards to counteract
> gravith and maybe levitate.
>
> JT

From Wikipedia
"A reactionless drive or inertial propulsion engine (also reactionless
thruster, reactionless engine, bootstrap drive, and inertia drive) is
any form of propulsion not based around expulsion of fuel or reaction
mass.
The name comes from Newton's Third Law of Motion, usually expressed
as: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." Such
a drive would use a hypothetical form of thrust that does not require
any outside force or net momentum exchange to produce linear motion,
and therefore necessarily violates the conservation of momentum, a
fundamental principle of all current understandings of physics."

Does the flying refrigerator powered by fountain thrust qualify as
inertial propulsion.

JT