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From: Carlos Mennens on 30 Mar 2010 16:00
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> This is basically what Jordan means by "upstream" in this context - the
> drivers supplied by nVidia.  Note that Jordan's advice is contradicted by
> Ron.  "You pays your money and you takes your choice." ;-)

OK so I guess it's just personal preference it seems...


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From: Jordan Metzmeier on 30 Mar 2010 16:40
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Carlos Mennens <carloswill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is basically what Jordan means by "upstream" in this context - the
>> drivers supplied by nVidia.  Note that Jordan's advice is contradicted by
>> Ron.  "You pays your money and you takes your choice." ;-)
>
> OK so I guess it's just personal preference it seems...
>

You don't have to use dpkg/apt to install packages. You can compile
from source manually.
You don't have to configure your interfaces using
/etc/network/interfaces. You can write your own init scripts for
starting interfaces.
You don't have to use update-alternatives to change system
alternatives, you can manually remove and create new symlinks, or even
copy the executables.

Don't interpret the above as advice. I am trying to point out that you
do not have to something using Debianisms, but it is generally a good
idea to do so.

The wiki article I linked to in the first page gives a short
comparison of the debian way vs. the nvidia way. There is also a
matter of support. I can not speak for the list, but on IRC the Nvidia
installer is not supported. In general, if you follow documentation
from an official Debian source (such as the wiki or reference manual),
you will find more people willing and able to support it.

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From: Ron Johnson on 30 Mar 2010 17:10
On 2010-03-30 15:29, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
[snip]
>
> The wiki article I linked to in the first page gives a short
> comparison of the debian way vs. the nvidia way. There is also a
> matter of support. I can not speak for the list, but on IRC the Nvidia
> installer is not supported. In general, if you follow documentation
> from an official Debian source (such as the wiki or reference manual),
> you will find more people willing and able to support it.
>

Look for support at nvnews.net.

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From: Andreas Weber on 30 Mar 2010 17:40
Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
> The nvidia installer from upstream will give you issues.

Actually I can't confirm that, using the Nvidia installer for quite a
long time now. My experience is more like 'a walk in the park' to
install it. Very easy, even if rollbacks are needed, eg. at the moment
when 195.x doesn't work too well with testing. Simply reinstalled 190.x
and that was it. What issues? I'm using it on unstable and testing
without any problems.

> In debian we
> use module-assistant to install things such as this.

I used to do it that way, too. But if you need fixes for stuff (eg. KDE
problems), the upstream driver releases are what come out first. It
really depends.

HTH, ändu

From: Hugo Vanwoerkom on 3 Apr 2010 13:30
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-03-30 10:10, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Mennens
>> <carloswill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For Debian users is there a suggested and correct method for
>>> installing nVidia drivers on their desktop systems? I was told by
>>> other distributions I should only use their respected package manager
>>> to use the nvidia drivers listed in their repository and avoid using
>>> the binary I downloaded from nVidia's site because this would cause
>>> problems. Do you have any suggestions about downloading the installer
>>> direct from nVidia and installing it manually rather than using
>>> 'Apt-Get'?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The nvidia installer from upstream will give you issues. In debian we
>> use module-assistant to install things such as this. You can find a
>> detailed guide specific to nvidia drivers here:
>> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
>>
>
> Hmph.
>
> I've been installing upstream for *years* with absolutely no problems.
> Nowadays, I even install a "split" driver on my 32-bit distro with
> 64-bit kernel.
>
> Note that I run Sid and compile my own kernel *from Debian sources*.
>
> The only caveat is that every time mesa gets updated, I must go into
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/ and rename libglx.so then symlink
> libglx.so.NNN.MM to libglx.so.
>
> Final note: I boot straight to the console, Like God Intended, so it's
> much simpler for me to muck around.
>

I always install from upstream and just installed
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.15-pkg1.run from
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.15/

I didn't have to do the symlink that Ron mentions, but maybe mesa didn't
get updated.

BTW God does not Intend you to boot straight into the console, He
Intends you to have multiseat systems.

Hugo









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