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From: Paul Clement on 7 May 2010 15:39 On Fri, 7 May 2010 20:24:40 +0200, "Schmidt" <sss(a)online.de> wrote: � > Otherwise, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with � > respect to your post. Microsoft is shutting down their � > NNTP newsgroups. No spin, no marketing. � > There may be replacement forums, which I � > would most certainly encourage and welcome for this group, � > but the NNTP newsgroups will be gone and not replaced. � That's again wrong and "fuddy" information - � only the (leading) news-server: 'msnews.microsoft.com' � will get closed - and that is not the same as that � what you just wrote: � "the NNTP newsgroups will be gone and not replaced" � The groups will be available on the appropriate usenet- � mirrors, hosted by the different ISPs even after the leading � server was closed - and that also does not say anything � about, *where* in the "NNTP-namespace" the community � will announce its new home ...behind either new names - � behind an established older namespace, which was not � "driven" by msnews.microsoft.com. I'm not really going to debate this. If you view the "new place" or "new home" as a replacement that's fine. All I'm saying is that the disassociation from Microsoft and the news server change probably is not going to help. � > � Talking about honesty, I personally would be happy, if � > � you'd stick with your own words at least (considering this � > � community dead) - and stay away from the new place, � > � we will find for ourselfs over the next days and weeks. � > � > I wouldn't really have any interest in the "new place" � Good to know. � � > because I suspect (as is occurring here) there will be few � > questions, particularly for a site that not many seeking help � > will be aware of. � Again this "pessimistic view"... � If we publish the new home early (as a public readable � reminder in this very NewsGroup, as well as on a bunch � of different, wellknown sites which the community often � frequents, then there should not be much changes in the � expected traffic in these new, yet to be named groups. Perhaps pessimistic but also realistic. There is no reason to believe that traffic will pick up as a result of the change of venue. My expectation would be opposite, unless you just want to chit-chat amongst yourselves. � > The level of knowledge here is amazing but the demand � > for it is waning. � Why did you mention then, that you'd be "sad ...and missing � this group" - do you mean, that *your* "demand for � knowledge is waning"? � All pure sarcasm? No sarcasm here. As I stated I would like to see an alternative supported by Microsoft and I think it would be sad if there wasn't anything. But the reality is there is little interest in this venue with respect to support. It could be the shift from NNTP to web forums or it could be lack of interest in VB 6.0 in general, or maybe a combination of both. The small number of questions per day would appear to bear that out. Paul ~~~~ Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
From: Henning on 8 May 2010 05:53 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet news:OpSyRZ96KHA.356(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > The final insult they had left to deliver... > > Q: When will this transition be complete? > > A: Microsoft is closing newsgroups in phases and anticipates completing > this by Fall 2010. > > Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx > > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > > This is now starting in the m.p.windowsxp.embedded posted from nntp(a)microsoft.com: ..... ..... When will this Happen? Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. We recommend that you start with http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/embeddedwindows /Henning
From: Henning on 8 May 2010 09:40 "Henning" <computer_hero(a)coldmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:uoQmbRp7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet > news:OpSyRZ96KHA.356(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> The final insult they had left to deliver... >> >> Q: When will this transition be complete? >> >> A: Microsoft is closing newsgroups in phases and anticipates completing >> this by Fall 2010. >> >> Microsoft Responds to the Evolution of Communities >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx >> >> -- >> .NET: It's About Trust! >> http://vfred.mvps.org >> >> > > This is now starting in the m.p.windowsxp.embedded posted from > nntp(a)microsoft.com: > > .... > .... > When will this Happen? > Effective June 1, 2010 this newsgroup will be closed. > > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? > Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the > same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. > The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue > the discussion. We recommend that you start with > http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/embeddedwindows > > /Henning I havn't tried it yet, but from the same group as above: > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP > reader > functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up > the > NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Seems one has to download/install some new bloatware... /Henning
From: Larry Serflaten on 8 May 2010 11:15 "Henning" <computer_hero(a)coldmail.com> wrote > >You can find instructions on how to download and set up the > > NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ > > Seems one has to download/install some new bloatware... ....And accept HTML posts. So much for the text-only crowd, they really want to push people into HTML. I wonder why??? <g> LFS
From: Henning on 8 May 2010 14:09
"Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> skrev i meddelandet news:eRvZgjr7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Henning" <computer_hero(a)coldmail.com> wrote >> >You can find instructions on how to download and set up the >> > NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ >> >> Seems one has to download/install some new bloatware... > > ...And accept HTML posts. So much for the text-only crowd, > they really want to push people into HTML. I wonder why??? > > <g> > LFS > > Clouding... /Henning |