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From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 18:33 dpb wrote: > Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> dpb wrote: >>> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> I'm using MesNews these days. But I couldn't even log in with telnet... >>>> >>> ... >>> >>> I think now I recall that it did take a while from the initial receipt of >>> account authentication e-mail before the 'bot updated the login registry >>> database there...I'll bet if you try again today it'll work. >> >> Yep! :-) > > Yeah, sorry I didn't recall that yesterday -- it came to me in the middle of > the night sometime for some reason...as is per usual. :( > > BTW, I think most of the time if they can solve the issue w/o response > they'll do so--in this case, of course, we know what the problem is now > (after the fact). > > I don't know how their financial model works but afaict they do super job for > a free service. I have in the past made a small donation but it's been a > while; maybe this discussion is incentive to do one this year, again, too... Well, fingers crossed! Options are always good. :-) -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 18:33 Henning wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet > news:uU3qXwV7KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Henning wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>> news:%23IEFncV7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Henning wrote: >>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>>>> news:%23WbtAvK7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Henning wrote: >>>>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going >>>>>>>> well. Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. >>>>>>>> Do you know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not >>>>>>> to the newsserver. :(( >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>>>>> over nntp. >>>>> >>>>> Mailed their support last night (in europe), and today it's working. >>>>> Guess I will get me some payed4 account at giganews, who have very long >>>>> times hosting msgs, several years. For text only groups, the cheapest is >>>>> good enough 5 GB/mo $4.99. >>>> >>>> Their servers did finally sync up, and I appear to be in. I think I'll >>>> stick with free, for now. >>> >>> Yepp, but this is what is the bait for me: 2509 Days Text Newsgroup >>> Retention >> >> On which server? At e-s, I show 6043 posts going back to 11/24/09 in this >> group. > > On Giganews.com. That 2509 days means they keep text group msgs fo 6.87 > years!! Wow. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Mayayana on 6 May 2010 19:00 | | Have you tried Avast? | No. Mostly I was trying products based on this report: http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php Unfortunately, those tests are also testing malware. Likewise, Online Armor is designed to block malware, control running programs, etc. I don't want that. I just want a good firewall. So the reports at matousec have to be taken with a grain of salt. But their report on Avast also says it doesn't block all outbound traffic. There are so many firewalls, and it's hard to test them well. A lot of them I've filtered out just because they're so bloated. I tried Comodo, Outpost and PCTools. I don't remember now what I found with those, but I seem to remember them just being overproduced and bloated.
From: Karl E. Peterson on 6 May 2010 18:59 Henning wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet > news:uU3qXwV7KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Henning wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>> news:%23IEFncV7KHA.4208(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Henning wrote: >>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev i meddelandet >>>>> news:%23WbtAvK7KHA.3504(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Henning wrote: >>>>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> skrev ... >>>>>>>> David Kaye wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Larry Serflaten" <serflaten(a)usinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would still need someone to provide 'free' access. I doubt my >>>>>>>>>> provider offers NNTP, and from the sound of things, many other >>>>>>>>>> major players are letting go also.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eternal September provides free access. There are others as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just created an account with them, and all appeared to be going >>>>>>>> well. Until I tried logging in. The credentials are being rejected. >>>>>>>> Do you know if they're having problems at the moment? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same thing happened to me... I can login to my personal page, but not >>>>>>> to the newsserver. :(( >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I even logged in (on the web) and "changed" my password. No go >>>>>> over nntp. >>>>> >>>>> Mailed their support last night (in europe), and today it's working. >>>>> Guess I will get me some payed4 account at giganews, who have very long >>>>> times hosting msgs, several years. For text only groups, the cheapest is >>>>> good enough 5 GB/mo $4.99. >>>> >>>> Their servers did finally sync up, and I appear to be in. I think I'll >>>> stick with free, for now. >>> >>> Yepp, but this is what is the bait for me: 2509 Days Text Newsgroup >>> Retention >> >> On which server? At e-s, I show 6043 posts going back to 11/24/09 in this >> group. > > On Giganews.com. That 2509 days means they keep text group msgs fo 6.87 > years!! Wow. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Mayayana on 6 May 2010 19:17
| I believe once they have sold it a million times and a million | potential customers are making their livelihoods from it, they lose | all rights to it. Or at least they lose the right to screw over those | million users within just a few years on the pretext of introducing | something new that turns out to be incompatible. | That's a bit radical for non-socialist countries. I'd be happy with a little regulation that prevents them from exploiting a monopoly. But the US has a long history of valueing freedom over civility. Our system is a somewhat orderly version of King of the Hill. And the people on the hill pay Congress handsomely to stay there. Our cable and phone companies get away with hiding the actual cost of their products. Our credit card companies are not different from loansharks. Wall St. is essentially a casino for the well dressed... Microsoft has one of the biggest lobbying operations. (Which is probably easily funded by their legal tax evasion through offshoring). So don't hold your breath waiting for Americans to act. We mostly just vote for one corporate stooge over another. We have to depend on Neelie Kroes and the more civilized European countries to do our regulation for us. :) |