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From: JSH on 13 Jun 2010 16:58 On Jun 13, 1:42 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > My coverage by myself on a yearly basis is 120+ countries to JUST my > > math blog alone. > > Do you have any idea how many of those visitors are human beings and how > many are spiders, either indexing the site for legitimate reasons or > scanning the site for email addresses for some spammer somewhere? Ask Google Analytics dude. You notice how often you guys ending up questioning Google's competence or relevance? For me hit counts are about world influence. To others who use Google Analytics, it's about money. But one thing continues to interest me about denial from posters is that it gets more and more insane. I'm a world figure, so of course you're going to end up questioning world systems to keep up your denial--so you do! People who come into these discussions wondering what's going on, just have to realize that I attract attention, and it is sort of like some celebrity coming to hang out with regular people--except the "regular people" can post as if they are not. Lots of fun for them, confusing for others. Being read in over 120 countries on a yearly basis is kind of hard to imagine, or impossible to imagine. It's also a feat the few single human beings on the planet actually achieve. Hence the denial by posters who can reply to me, but they cannot match me. James Harris
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 13 Jun 2010 18:18 JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jun 13, 1:42 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > My coverage by myself on a yearly basis is 120+ countries to JUST my >> > math blog alone. >> >> Do you have any idea how many of those visitors are human beings and how >> many are spiders, either indexing the site for legitimate reasons or >> scanning the site for email addresses for some spammer somewhere? > > Ask Google Analytics dude. You notice how often you guys ending up > questioning Google's competence or relevance? I'm not questioning their competence or relevance. I'm asking whether they give you any clear indication. For my own website, I can distinguish well-behaved spiders from human visitors. I cannot tell the difference between non-well-behaved spiders (those that don't check robots.txt, for instance) from human visitors, except by looking closely at their behavior. If they click every single link in order, they're almost certainly an email-harvesting spider. Humans don't do that. My question is whether your numbers indicate a difference between spiders and humans. Apparently, the answer is no. Am I mistaken? > For me hit counts are about world influence. To others who use Google > Analytics, it's about money. > > But one thing continues to interest me about denial from posters is > that it gets more and more insane. I'm a world figure, so of course > you're going to end up questioning world systems to keep up your > denial--so you do! Yes, of course you're a world figure. Who could question that? > > People who come into these discussions wondering what's going on, just > have to realize that I attract attention, and it is sort of like some > celebrity coming to hang out with regular people--except the "regular > people" can post as if they are not. > > Lots of fun for them, confusing for others. > > Being read in over 120 countries on a yearly basis is kind of hard to > imagine, or impossible to imagine. > > It's also a feat the few single human beings on the planet actually > achieve. > > Hence the denial by posters who can reply to me, but they cannot match > me. I'm not trying to match you. I'm your biggest fan. Funny how you react to a simple question as if it were denying your obvious international influence and world-changing impotence. -- Jesse F. Hughes "You shouldn't hate Mother Mathematics." -- James S. Harris
From: JSH on 13 Jun 2010 18:52 On Jun 13, 3:18 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Jun 13, 1:42 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > My coverage by myself on a yearly basis is 120+ countries to JUST my > >> > math blog alone. > > >> Do you have any idea how many of those visitors are human beings and how > >> many are spiders, either indexing the site for legitimate reasons or > >> scanning the site for email addresses for some spammer somewhere? > > > Ask Google Analytics dude. You notice how often you guys ending up > > questioning Google's competence or relevance? > > I'm not questioning their competence or relevance. I'm asking whether > they give you any clear indication. > > For my own website, I can distinguish well-behaved spiders from human > visitors. I cannot tell the difference between non-well-behaved spiders > (those that don't check robots.txt, for instance) from human visitors, > except by looking closely at their behavior. If they click every single > link in order, they're almost certainly an email-harvesting spider. > Humans don't do that. > > My question is whether your numbers indicate a difference between > spiders and humans. Apparently, the answer is no. Am I mistaken? You're an amateur. Google is the professional. Your denial of your amateur status does not change it. It's their job to get the counts right. What I will note is that I have three blogs, plus an open source site on SourceForge, which includes my own page for my open source project. So I can check across multiple websites. And I can cross-check the SourceForge one now against country counts for downloads. Actually Class Viewer *does* surpass mymath, with country counts around 40+ every 7 days, for downloads. (mymath only manages like 30+ countries per week.) Do you now wish readers to suppose that spiders are downloading my Class Viewer program? Cross-checking from sites shows mymath is my most popular blog by far. 10 times as popular with country counts that dwarf the other two blogs. My open source project driven by SourceForge matches it. And people around the world can just check Google. Google: mymath And your denial reeks. "unskilled and unaware" You people have tossed that at me but it best describes you as you continue to question Google--as if you're its equal. James Harris
From: Ostap Bender on 13 Jun 2010 18:58 On Jun 13, 3:18 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On Jun 13, 1:42 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: > >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> > My coverage by myself on a yearly basis is 120+ countries to JUST my > >> > math blog alone. > > >> Do you have any idea how many of those visitors are human beings and how > >> many are spiders, either indexing the site for legitimate reasons or > >> scanning the site for email addresses for some spammer somewhere? > > > Ask Google Analytics dude. You notice how often you guys ending up > > questioning Google's competence or relevance? > > I'm not questioning their competence or relevance. I'm asking whether > they give you any clear indication. > > For my own website, I can distinguish well-behaved spiders from human > visitors. I cannot tell the difference between non-well-behaved spiders > (those that don't check robots.txt, for instance) from human visitors, > except by looking closely at their behavior. If they click every single > link in order, they're almost certainly an email-harvesting spider. > Humans don't do that. > > My question is whether your numbers indicate a difference between > spiders and humans. Apparently, the answer is no. Am I mistaken? Well, while JSH has no way of knowing if any of the visitors to his web site are humans, it is not impossible that some are. His posts here at sci.math are the source of enjoyment for many sci.math readers from all over the World, so they probably visit his own site too, for a great laugh. I myself have been to his site twice recently and laughed by head off. > > For me hit counts are about world influence. To others who use Google > > Analytics, it's about money. > > > But one thing continues to interest me about denial from posters is > > that it gets more and more insane. I'm a world figure, so of course > > you're going to end up questioning world systems to keep up your > > denial--so you do! > > Yes, of course you're a world figure. Who could question that? > > > > > > > People who come into these discussions wondering what's going on, just > > have to realize that I attract attention, and it is sort of like some > > celebrity coming to hang out with regular people--except the "regular > > people" can post as if they are not. > > > Lots of fun for them, confusing for others. > > > Being read in over 120 countries on a yearly basis is kind of hard to > > imagine, or impossible to imagine. > > > It's also a feat the few single human beings on the planet actually > > achieve. > > > Hence the denial by posters who can reply to me, but they cannot match > > me. > > I'm not trying to match you. I'm your biggest fan. > > Funny how you react to a simple question as if it were denying your > obvious international influence and world-changing impotence. > > -- > Jesse F. Hughes > > "You shouldn't hate Mother Mathematics." > -- James S. Harris
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 13 Jun 2010 21:29
JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Jun 13, 3:18 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> > On Jun 13, 1:42 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote: >> >> JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >> > My coverage by myself on a yearly basis is 120+ countries to JUST my >> >> > math blog alone. >> >> >> Do you have any idea how many of those visitors are human beings and how >> >> many are spiders, either indexing the site for legitimate reasons or >> >> scanning the site for email addresses for some spammer somewhere? >> >> > Ask Google Analytics dude. You notice how often you guys ending up >> > questioning Google's competence or relevance? >> >> I'm not questioning their competence or relevance. I'm asking whether >> they give you any clear indication. >> >> For my own website, I can distinguish well-behaved spiders from human >> visitors. I cannot tell the difference between non-well-behaved spiders >> (those that don't check robots.txt, for instance) from human visitors, >> except by looking closely at their behavior. If they click every single >> link in order, they're almost certainly an email-harvesting spider. >> Humans don't do that. >> >> My question is whether your numbers indicate a difference between >> spiders and humans. Apparently, the answer is no. Am I mistaken? > > You're an amateur. Google is the professional. Your denial of your > amateur status does not change it. It's their job to get the counts > right. Again: It's not a matter of getting the counts right. It's a question of whether they bother to distinguish between humans and other sources. You've given me no indication of whether Google cares abouit this. > What I will note is that I have three blogs, plus an open source site > on SourceForge, which includes my own page for my open source project. > > So I can check across multiple websites. And I can cross-check the > SourceForge one now against country counts for downloads. Actually > Class Viewer *does* surpass mymath, with country counts around 40+ > every 7 days, for downloads. (mymath only manages like 30+ countries > per week.) > > Do you now wish readers to suppose that spiders are downloading my > Class Viewer program? Why not? It's Java source code, right? And thus may well be treated as plain text. > Cross-checking from sites shows mymath is my most popular blog by > far. 10 times as popular with country counts that dwarf the other two > blogs. My open source project driven by SourceForge matches it. > > And people around the world can just check Google. Google: mymath > > And your denial reeks. What denial? I love JSH! > "unskilled and unaware" > > You people have tossed that at me but it best describes you as you > continue to question Google--as if you're its equal. Hey. I'm unequal to Google. Honest. -- Jesse F. Hughes "All information is subject to change without notice." -- California Alternative High School |