From: John Fields on
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:

>
>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here.
>>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is.
>>
>> ---
>> Move then?
>
>Great mindset.

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Just reductio ad absurdum...


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JF
From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>What real objection do you have to an 'NHS' ?
> >
> > It's unconstitutional.
>
> Really? You have a constitution which says the state can not provide
> healthcare for the people. Amazing.
>
> I'd ammend it personally.
>
> > [emoticon now retreats into its
> > tornado cellar] It is also a waste of resources,
>
> Yet it is still cost effective. Imagine the purchasing power a US NHS could
> bring to bear.

Formidable I would have thought !


> >ineffcient,
>
> Nope.

And curious that the idea is trotted out without as much as a second's thought.


> > and hands over all approvals to politicians and bureaucrats.
>
> Certainly not. What approvals to politicians make in the NHS? Overall budget
> is it - that is no different than a private health care organisation though.
>
> Medical decisions are made by doctors.
>
> The NHS is far from perfect and certainly has many flaws but the fact
> remains it is an excellent, inclusive, health care system which treats all
> the population of our country on a medical need basis. If a homeless vagrant
> catches a communicable disease, who is responsible for treating him/her and
> ensuring it doesn't spread?

Consider the rise of tunerculosis in places like New York

Graham

From: lucasea on

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>
> It seems a lot of posters here cant. Strange really. I love the forced
> self determination argument. Its grrrrreat.


So they truly are empowered to do whatever the hell we tell them to....

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake"
> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
>>news:vk59l2phvmcn4ilmj8cn6kvgape1ip72h5(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here.
>>>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Move then?
>>
>>Great mindset.
>
> ---
> Just reductio ad absurdum...

Yes, it is absurd to think that the only two options are to put up with it
or move. I have more respect for, and expect more from democracy than that.

Eric Lucas


From: T Wake on

"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake"
> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
>>news:vk59l2phvmcn4ilmj8cn6kvgape1ip72h5(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here.
>>>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Move then?
>>
>>Great mindset.
>
> ---
> Just reductio ad absurdum...

Possibly, however it creates the situation where any complaints or hopes to
improve a much loved country can be met with dismissive retort.