From: John Fields on 10 Nov 2006 16:42 On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:vk59l2phvmcn4ilmj8cn6kvgape1ip72h5(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here. >>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is. >> >> --- >> Move then? > >Great mindset. --- Just reductio ad absurdum... -- JF
From: Eeyore on 10 Nov 2006 16:44 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>What real objection do you have to an 'NHS' ? > > > > It's unconstitutional. > > Really? You have a constitution which says the state can not provide > healthcare for the people. Amazing. > > I'd ammend it personally. > > > [emoticon now retreats into its > > tornado cellar] It is also a waste of resources, > > Yet it is still cost effective. Imagine the purchasing power a US NHS could > bring to bear. Formidable I would have thought ! > >ineffcient, > > Nope. And curious that the idea is trotted out without as much as a second's thought. > > and hands over all approvals to politicians and bureaucrats. > > Certainly not. What approvals to politicians make in the NHS? Overall budget > is it - that is no different than a private health care organisation though. > > Medical decisions are made by doctors. > > The NHS is far from perfect and certainly has many flaws but the fact > remains it is an excellent, inclusive, health care system which treats all > the population of our country on a medical need basis. If a homeless vagrant > catches a communicable disease, who is responsible for treating him/her and > ensuring it doesn't spread? Consider the rise of tunerculosis in places like New York Graham
From: lucasea on 10 Nov 2006 16:46 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:Bu2dncWeBfbIbMnYnZ2dnUVZ8tidnZ2d(a)pipex.net... > > It seems a lot of posters here cant. Strange really. I love the forced > self determination argument. Its grrrrreat. So they truly are empowered to do whatever the hell we tell them to.... Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 10 Nov 2006 16:47 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:7gs9l2d2b5tpkeo6r93fkkp8nskbfitte1(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>news:vk59l2phvmcn4ilmj8cn6kvgape1ip72h5(a)4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here. >>>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is. >>> >>> --- >>> Move then? >> >>Great mindset. > > --- > Just reductio ad absurdum... Yes, it is absurd to think that the only two options are to put up with it or move. I have more respect for, and expect more from democracy than that. Eric Lucas
From: T Wake on 10 Nov 2006 16:58
"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:7gs9l2d2b5tpkeo6r93fkkp8nskbfitte1(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:11:12 -0000, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>news:vk59l2phvmcn4ilmj8cn6kvgape1ip72h5(a)4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:>>>here. >>>>Again, I resent having my money wasted in the way that it is. >>> >>> --- >>> Move then? >> >>Great mindset. > > --- > Just reductio ad absurdum... Possibly, however it creates the situation where any complaints or hopes to improve a much loved country can be met with dismissive retort. |