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From: Lloyd Parker on 10 Nov 2006 06:20 In article <c029l2p7ro3hqkphqqr4kegohnqtgmc9pb(a)4ax.com>, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >On Fri, 10 Nov 06 12:37:25 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <45535A1F.F229D5D9(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>The best way to avoid a 'mess' is to behave intelligently and avoid provoking >>>hostility. > >--- >I think Theodore Roosevelt summed it up quite nicely with "Speak >softly and carry a big stick" >--- > > >>You are considered to be the equivalent of vermin in a certain >>interpretation of the Koran. You do not merit hositility since >>that would give you an equal standing. > >--- >I agree. > > Do you also agree with his: "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is morally treasonable to the American public."
From: Lloyd Parker on 10 Nov 2006 06:19 In article <ej211j$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <455485EB.84F083F4(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >> >>Why ? > >It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. By that argument, you support slavery. > >> >>I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >> >>Can anyone actually live on that ? > >$10k/year? Yes. > >/BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on 10 Nov 2006 06:17 In article <ej1uag$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <i5-dnVZNbt7jHc7YnZ2dnUVZ8tCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eiv90t$8qk_001(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <rA14h.8307$B31.443(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, >> >><snip> >>> If everything the Republicans said was to make me fearful, why am >>> I not afraid? >><snip> >> >>You are. You are afraid of the world losing knowledge. > >I don't think that's fear. I dislike having to redo everything. > >> Of a big mess which >>will take ten years to prevent. Of a minimum wage coming and causing a mess >>in three years. Etc. > >Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. That's not fear; >that pure unadulterated disgust. >> But giving companies with the biggest profits in history tax breaks makes sense, right? >>The funny thing is, none are realistic fears. You aren't afraid of the >>really scary things. > > >What do you think is a really scary thing? > >/BAH >
From: joseph2k on 10 Nov 2006 12:45 JoeBloe wrote: > On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:40:12 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >> >>"xray" <notreally(a)hotmail.invalid> wrote in message >>news:k9u5l2tn644sntciap2sbagjmb5fabq2bl(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:44:20 +0000, Eeyore >>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>unsettled wrote: >>>> >>>>> However, the Republican Party >>>>> platform is more apt to provide for economic growth. >>>> >>>>Since when was a huge and increasing foreign debt the model for economic >>>>growth ? >>>> >>> >>> Foreign debt? That's so 80's and 90's. We started this war to try to >>> make our own internal debt far outshine our foreign debts. >>> >>> Of course, since we no longer make a large portion of the stuff we are >>> using in the war, you might still have a point. >> >>Ya think? >> > > Name a foreign part in the M1 Abrams. Lots of semiconductors made in Malaysia with 'mericun logos like "M" and "Ti" and "NS". -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: joseph2k on 10 Nov 2006 13:16
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45525B3A.A3C915E6(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> > >>> >> Don Rumsfeld, cut from the same inflexible, unthinking and >>> >> unlistening, >>> >> "my way or the highway" mold, has now stepped aside. >>> > >>> > Do you think it was his decision entirely or was he nudged or even >>> > pushed ? >>> >>> Oh, I'm quite certain he was pushed. >> >> I'd like to think so ! >> >> >>> You can see it on Rumsfeld's face. I >>> think Bush saw the writing on the wall, that he would probably have to >>> let >>> Rumsfeld go at some point, and decided to cut bait now while he has a >>> remote >>> chance of having an even minimally friendly Congress for the new guy's >>> confirmation hearings. From what little I've read, however, the new guy >>> is >>> probably a pretty good choice, given his actual desire and ability to >>> work >>> with other people, and not think he can run the whole show himself. >> >> You mean there may yet be some hope for 'consensus politics' ??? >> >> I'd heard Bush isn't so keen on that. > > I've been mulling this one over today, and have some further thoughts. > One thing to keep in mind is that Bush truly did seem to be keen on it as > governor of Texas. He had developed himself a reputation as someone who > could bring together diverse political styles and get them to work well > together. When he said "I'm a uniter, not a divider" in 2000, from > everything I hear, he was not being disingenuous--he was being entirely > sincere, based on his experiences as governor of Texas. Something > happened > to him when he was elected President. I don't know if it was Rove, > Cheney, Rumsfeld, or who, but for some reason, around 2000 - 2001 appears > to be when he took on a lot of the hard-line "my way or the highway" > characteristics > that are the hallmark of his Presidency. I think 9/11 had a lot to do > with it, and perhaps our fast and decisive success in Afghanistan (even if > we > didn't completely finish that job the way we should have). I remember a > couple weeks after 9/11/01, commenting to someone that I thought Bush had > done a fairly effective job handling it, neither making any huge blunders, > nor hitting any "home runs". How things after 2002! He may have simply > gotten a big head over having responded effectively to 9/11, and began to > think he could do no wrong, ever. His re-election and further gains in > Congress probably fed that self-perception. I think he got a *huge* dose > of humility last night...let's hope he's actually capable of learning > something from it. > > One of the knee-jerk lessons one could take from the past 6 years is > never, ever, ever, ever, *ever* elect a President and give his party a > majority in both houses of Congress....something about absolute power > corrupting > absolutely. I'm pretty busy these days, but when I have time, I'm going > to correlate the history of the Presidency and Congress, and see if I can > find other examples of a President having unfettered support in Congress, > and see > what the political and governmental results were. If anyone else cares to > find and post the results before I time to, I'd be very interested in the > results. > > Eric Lucas Then of course that study should begin with "The Era of Good Feelings". -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller |