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From: Lloyd Parker on 10 Jan 2007 03:00 In article <eo2mas$8qk_001(a)s808.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <eo0aa9$t1i$7(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>In article <eo01nb$8qk_001(a)s965.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>In article <entrv6$ose$7(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>[....] >>>>Bush said the gov't could open mail in a broad range of circumstances. The >>>>law already allows it if the mail is suspected of containing something >>>>dangerous. >>> >>>It is a US President's job to do this. >> >>No it isn't. He swears to defend the constitution not to violate it. > >He also has the job of national security. Which does not give him the authority to break the law. > >>> It is the other two branches' jobs >>>to provide rein checks and balances to Presidential powers. >> >>These are needed only because people are human and sometimes don't do what >>they are supposed to do. > >This is needed because one goal counters another goal. For instance, >freedom counters equality and equality counters freedom. To have >100% of one requires 0% of the other. > >> Cops exist because there are criminals. Nobody >>is supposed to be a criminal but we know that some people will be. Each >>branch is there to ensure that the others do their jobs and don't start >>commiting crimes. This is how, at least, it is intended to work. > >So far, it does work. If you had your wishes, the results would >be no Constitutional rights and some flavor of oligarchy which, >I think, would eventually end up in a viscious dictatorship. > > >> >>[....] >>>This process of checks and balances doesn't seem to be understood >>>by Europeans. >> >>I have never met a european that didn't understand it. > >You've met them here. > >> Their governments >>call it something else but they have different branches of government >>doing the same sort of thing. The french claim to have invented it. > >Their governments "take care" of them by deciding more aspects >of their lifestyle than the US does. >> >> >>> My hypothesis is that this happens because their >>>unconscious assumptions are based in kingship type rule. So >>>far I don't see anything to contradict this one. >> >>This is an example of GIGO logic. > >Then you haven't thought much about it. It is possible that >you have the thinking style which longs for a similar >decision heirarchy. I'm discovering that most people do >have this preference. > >> >> >>>The reason this understand is important is because this European >>>style thinking will affect how Western civilization defends itself. >> >>Yes, it will effect it for the better in this case. Europeans tend to >>take a long view of history. > >Yes. That is why they wait until they are forced to deal with >a mess that is too big to clean up easily and in a short time period. > >> As a result they tend to think about the >>long term results of their actions. They also often learn more than one >>language and know of more than one culture. This helps them in >>understanding about interactions of cultures. It prevents them from >>making some beginer level mistakes on the world stage. > >So how do you explain the messes they left in Africa, southeast Asia, >the Middle East, Germany, and central Europe? > >/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Jan 2007 08:07 In article <45A313BD.EC4F3A36(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>How do you like Bush asserting he's got the right to open and read >> >> >>>first-class mail? >> >> >> >> >> >>During WWII all mail going and coming from overseas was read. >> >> > >> >> >Now we have laws forbidding that. >> >> >> >> These are peacetime laws. >> > >> >Is this peacetime or not ? >> >> As I have stated a gazillion times in this thread, we are at >> war. > >There is no war. Didn't GWB himself state "Mission Accomplished" ? Honey, a war is made up of many missions. Pres. Bush did not say "War won." He been saying the exact opposite--that this global conflict will last for generations. This, of course, is why most people are in denial for the moment. They seem to expect Hollywood-style outcome where this war will end when the credits show up on the TV screen. What is astounding is that Europeans should know better. Their histories have titles "n-year War". /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Jan 2007 08:30 In article <r9q4q21ejngol0c6k3iadsluvdmm6itjfs(a)4ax.com>, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:35:33 +0000, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >It's just a shame that such places can't sell healthier food. >>> >>> They are. It costs more money to not use real fat when frying >>> potatoes. >> >>Trans-fats are manufactured. They're not *real* ! >> >> >>> So the prices went up. If McDonald's prices are so >>> high that they can't stay in budiness, there going to be an >>> awful messy economy pretty soon. >> >>What !! ?? >> >>Graham > >Yes, Graham, you heard it here. The secret is finally out, darn it. >The entire US economy has been secretly based upon McDonalds. The >idea is so insidious, few around the world recognized how we actually >managed to hide our softer underbelly. But there it is now, exposed >for all to see. Drat. ;) Sigh! You people are ignorant. You can tell if your area is going to have an economic slow down, increase, or crash by noticing the changes in pricing of McDonalds hamburgers. Economists even have a name for this. I always was able to plan the next year or two by watching the price of the sandwiches. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Jan 2007 08:32 In article <45A264F3.D7DB4449(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >T Wake wrote: >> >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > Little girls learn all about how sound carries. >> >> >> >> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Interception of mobile telephones is nothing >> >> to do with how sound carries. >> > >> >I wonder if BAH was a bit of a gossip in her youth ? >> >> You are again foolish. Little girls are getting trained for >> motherhood. How do you think your mother could detect >> what you were up to before you killed yourself? > >Eh ? Mothers collect all the sounds you make and don't make, store them, and can extrapolate when they should intervene. Do you honestly think that this listening ability happens when breast milk begins to flow? Little girls begin learning how to multi-process thousands of data items so they know how to do this unconsciously when it becomes necessary for survival. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Jan 2007 08:40
In article <45A3D277.F021CB68(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: >> >> In article <eo00km$8ss_002(a)s965.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> [....] >> >Ah, I was using the word monitoring incorrectly. >> >> No, actually you were close to right about the use of the term. The >> mistake you had made was to assume that it could be done without making >> the tap. If a computer digitizes and processes a signal and raises a >> warning if the signal has some property being looked for, the computer is >> monitoring the signal. > > > Phone lines ARE DIGITAL. They are only analog the "Last mile", where >the digital data one on pair is separated into multiple analog lines and >delivered to your old fashioned, POTS phone. I suppose these people believe that all phone transmissions go through copper from the caller to the phone answerer, especially their cell phone transmissions. I don't get how blindness to how stuff works. /BAH |