From: unsettled on 10 Jan 2007 17:37 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <a1cb9$45a50faf$cdd085b4$27856(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>Pen recorders without warrant were always legal. > What? The gov't monitoring a call was NEVER legal w/o a warrant. Better hurry up and tell the Supreme Court they're wrong then. "Pen registers are regularly employed 'to determine whether a home phone is being used to conduct a business, to check for a defective dial, or to check for overbilling.'" "Although most people may be oblivious to a pen register's esoteric functions, they presumably have some awareness of one common use: to aid in the identification of persons making annoying or obscene calls." <http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=442&page=735>
From: Jamie on 10 Jan 2007 19:44 Eeyore wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >>>That's because you're deaf / blind to anything you don't want to see / hear. >>> >>>Graham >>> >> >>ah, now you're finally getting a grip on your self Graham.. >>You know, didn't your mother tell you that talking to your >>self will make you go cross eyed? > > > Hah ! You fell for my little trap :~) > > Graham > I didn't fall for any trap that you may think you had set. You simply wasn't watching where you were walking and stepped into one of those little holes of yours. Tread lightly, You'll never know who's watching. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
From: MassiveProng on 10 Jan 2007 19:41 On Wed, 10 Jan 07 07:57:02 GMT, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) Gave us: >And that's not what "wiretapping" or "tap" means anyway. It means >interception. Oh, that is most certainly what it means as well as where and how the word was derived. Interception is a re-route, and the original intended recipient of the call is not where the call ends up.
From: MassiveProng on 10 Jan 2007 19:48 On Wed, 10 Jan 07 07:58:29 GMT, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) Gave us: >If it's the gov't's computer, yes it does. Why do you think the 4th amendment >applies to a physical connection but not a computer one? Show me where the word "connection" is at in the fourth amendment. Also, since it is indeed an amendment, someone at some point in time decided that changes were needed in the constitution. I know you have at least enough brains to see where I am heading with this...
From: MassiveProng on 10 Jan 2007 19:55
On Wed, 10 Jan 07 13:45:43 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >Do you honestly think that a human is listening to all phone >converstations that happen each day? Well... at least two are. One on each end. |