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From: Ken Smith on 15 Jan 2007 21:48 In article <d5b6d$45aa7d6f$4fe76e9$22338(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > >> In article <eodhg2$8qk_002(a)s849.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <eobnu0$oor$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >> [....] >> >>>>Treat them like the IRA and or the Mafia. To help take down organized >>>>crime, the RICO law was created. If tools are needed, they can be made. >>> >>>So you are expecting a UN jurisdiction to handle these people and >>>the messes they make. >> >> >> No, you have it completely wrong. The UN had nothing to do with the >> Mafia. You seem to have this bogus idea about what happens if you don't >> call it a war and it is coloring everything you think about the subject. >> You would do far better to thik of the terrorists as being like the Mafia. >> You will quickly see how that model works whereas yours doesn't. >> >> >> >> >>> Are you also willing to subject the >>>Constitution to the UN charter? >>> >>>That's what you are asking for and demanding. >> >> >> No, it isn't. > >Actually what you're asking for is even more impossible, >that any nation harboring a person we call a "terrorist" >be punished. No, I'm not even asking that. Not every nation that had a member of the Mafia in it straight away arrested them. All it takes is that they get arrested and end up in jail faster than new members join. If the arrest rate is noticed, it lowers the joining rate so you don't even have to match the prexisting recruiting levels. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 15 Jan 2007 21:50 In article <45AA821B.34A095F(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >unsettled wrote: [....] >> Actually what you're asking for is even more impossible, >> that any nation harboring a person we call a "terrorist" >> be punished. > >Aside from those few countries that would intentionally harbour such persons, >what's so difficult about that ? The ... we call a "terrorist" ... part would be the biggest problem. Even then, against the real threat, this wouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent the idea from working. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 15 Jan 2007 21:56 In article <51b89$45aa7f7f$4fe76e9$22623(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > >> In article <eodh9a$8qk_001(a)s849.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <eobnlh$oor$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >> [....] >> >>>No it is not at all like Mafia conflicts. The Mafia is firmly >>>entrenched in Western civilization styles of living and conducting >>>business. >> >> >> The Mafia is the better model. It isn't perfect because the details don't >> match up perfectly but it works quite well. The terrorists live among >> populations that are not the terrorists. To remove them you need the >> locals help. As with the Mafia, when you get the help of the locals, you >> wi. Calling them soldiers causes you to lose the help of the locals and >> calling them criminals allows you to gain it. > >The locals don't care what you call them. Locals are either bought >off or they'll turn them in. That's why both terrorists and the >Mafia of old thrived best in poor neighborhoods. The Mafia no longer thrives. What I'm suggesting works. The actions you have supported haven't. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 15 Jan 2007 21:58 In article <1ad2f$45aa7fb7$4fe76e9$22623(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: [....] >> So what do you expect from this 20K more troops? It isn't enough extra to >> make a difference so it must be symbolic or political. Please explain how >> they make anything better. > >I've said before, disarm the population, seal the border, and we >can leave. Good plan, but with 20K more troops, there is no chance of doing so. With a few 100K perhaps it could be done. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 15 Jan 2007 22:02
In article <eofsg0$8u0_001(a)s960.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >In article <eodqjd$gus$6(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: [....] >>So what do you expect from this 20K more troops? It isn't enough extra to >>make a difference so it must be symbolic or political. Please explain how >>they make anything better. > >I don't know if 20K more will do the job. It seems that everyone except Bush says it won't. > I do know that the key >is to get the Iraqi middle class back and working. It isn't just the middle class that needs to get back to work. The "working class" also needs to be employed and have a hope for the future. Adding 20K more troops does nothing along these lines. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |