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From: jmfbahciv on 27 Jan 2007 08:14 In article <epd5lu$8oj$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <epcqla$8ss_002(a)s846.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >[.....] >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. > >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. >Totalitarians have more trouble than democracies in this area. In a >democracy, nobody is above the law. This includes the police and >the military. This way all criminals are subject to the law. IMO it is >the best way to do things. But those, who intend to kill you, don't honor those laws. They believe your laws are contrary to their religious laws. So they will not play using your rules. They will use your rules as tactics against you. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 27 Jan 2007 08:17 In article <k95lr2pha8mibuk3etaojv5gh6dfnttkug(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jan 07 12:15:54 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>In article <gpnir29u35mv9n1tgfa9blk3ks9d1kadah(a)4ax.com>, >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>On Thu, 25 Jan 07 13:31:06 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>> >>>>And you people are talking about the wrong decade. >>>> >>>>I was using VT05s in 1972; IIRC, Hastings was typing on his >>>>breadboard in 1971. I'm still pissed off at him for not >>>>asking me about the keyboard layout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> The FCC had emission regs on ALL radiators since the fifties. >> >>Now read the regs on gear manufactured for non-home use. >> > > > What part of ALL radiating devices do you not understand? > > If anything, the business/commercial class was LESS tolerant of >emissions. Sigh! And we weren't selling to the business nor commercial class at that time. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 27 Jan 2007 08:19 In article <epd59k$f3g$7(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <epcrmf$8ss_006(a)s846.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <RpudnXjBi_-ulCTYnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:epak56$8ss_005(a)s1090.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <45B782A7.A2676982(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >T Wake wrote: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> You see, here you demand that people be punished on the suspicion >>>> that >>>>>> >> >> they intend to do harm. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> It is sad you do not see this is a morally wrong thing to do. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >Naive views. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >You've ignored that conspiracy to commit a "main crime" is a >>>>>> >> >criminal act even before the "main crime" has been committed. >>>>>> >> >People are sent to prison for this rather frequently. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >Conspiracy is the usual case in the forms of terrorism that >>>>>> >> >are the basis of these discussions. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> When someone is arrested for this, do they not get to post >>>>>> >> bail and get out? Why would such a person stop making >>>>>> >> plans to make a mess just because he's been arrested and >>>>>> >> may have a trial in two years? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >In the UK you can't buy yourself out of jail by posting a bail bond. >>>>>> >It's >>>>>> >down to the police themselves in simple cases and a judge in more >>>>>> >serious >>>>>> cases >>>>>> >whether bail will be offered. >>>>>> >>>>>> What if your judge has your opinion that there isn't any serious >>>>>> threats by these terrorists? >>>>> >>>>>If the judge believes that, I'd be inclined to trust his opinion. >>>>> >>>>>You see in the UK there has to be a high standard of evidence before a >>>>>charge >>>> is >>>>>even brought in the first place. >>>> >>>> Exactly. Your chances of having a mess becomes more likely than >>>> less likely. >>> >>>This is another sign of your dislike of democracy and people's rights. Why >>>you live in the West is beyond me. Other than the religious orientation you >>>would be much more suited in the Middle East. >> >>Not at all. >> >>> >>>What you are saying here is that because innocent people can not be >>>punished, there is more chance of something bad happening. >> >>You keep assuming that those who are planning to destroy your >>infrastructure are innocent. They are not. > >You keep assuming people are planning to do that. They are not until >convicted. This belief will kill you and yours. Your enemies are counting on you keeping this belief until the mess becomes too big to clean up. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 27 Jan 2007 08:47 unsettled wrote: > MassiveProng wrote: > > > Indeed, dipshit. Laugh. You certainly don't have enough brains to > > put forth a real argument. > > LOL, I work with what you give us to work with, which > is actually nothing at all. It has to be said the Mr Massive Pong has nailed you on this one. Graham
From: Eeyore on 27 Jan 2007 08:48
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> The only thing I've been discussing in this thread is about very > >> speicfic mess preventions. The US is trying to deal with preventing > >> these messes. > > > >But it's the USA that's responsible for the underlying scenarios that causes > >these 'messes' in the first place. > > hmm....Thus, using your reasoning, if you get shot during a bank > robbery, it is your fault for being in the bank. No. Do you have more daft analogies to offer ? Graham |