From: MassiveProng on 5 Feb 2007 08:33 On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:39:52 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> Gave us: >Ken Smith wrote: >> In article <45C6845D.3A46D52E(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>MassiveProng wrote: >> >> [....] >> >>>>qualified installer situation only, and if he can shove it into the >>>>location and plug it in, he can diagnose any problems it causes after >>>>being plugged in. Otherwise, he ain't all that to begin with. >>> >>>I don't know how you handle these things in the USA but in the UK a full-size >>>electric stove is a permanently installed device that an electrician fits to a >>>specific power point that includes ( as it happens ) an isolating switch. >> >> >> When new stuff gets put in, these days, it gets plugged in. Even stuff >> that you normally think of as permanent will have a way to plug and unplug >> it. This reduces the skill level needed to do a safe installation. >> >> BTW: In California, nothing is permanently installed. It may tumble out >> the door any minute. > >We're consumer oriented here in the US rather than union >oriented, for the most part. Well, THAT was a one hundred percent meaningless remark.
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Feb 2007 08:32 In article <45C67C3F.E37768AC(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >unsettled wrote: > >> Islam is now ~1400 years old. We can look at what >> Christianity was doing about the year 1400. Much of >> what was going on wasn't very pretty. > >You may to be interested to know that I concur with the view that the behaviour of >religions is related to their age too. > > >> Luther was born in 1483. If the evolution of Islam tracks that of >> Christianity at all, their great reformer should be coming along any time now. >> The conditions happen to be ripe. Funny how that works. > >Yes. I've been thinking that it's time for some kind of 'reform Islam' that takes >them into a modern forward-thinking technological era instead of a regressive >agrarian tribal/fuedal one. And that is exactly what I've been talking about for 15,000 posts. What we are seeing is the struggle between modernization and keeping things at the status quo. Those who do not want to change are trying to destroy the cause of those who want to mondernize. Modernization means including Western civilization's progress. Until WWI and the final breakup of the Ottoman Empire, there was no WEstern civilization influcence to tempt most Muslims. Even those who were the first embassadors to Europe in the late 1800s could not understand most of the European lifestyle. There was no way they could send back explanations for certain things like entertainment, science, art and medicine. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Feb 2007 08:35 In article <2srcs2douj8ck4ojlg9fsvio58o83hf97c(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Feb 07 15:56:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>In article <45C34470.DCB07DFF(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >I think you should read up about rationing during WW2. >>>> >>>> I have. It is significant that England couldn't figure out how >>>> to stop war rations until 3 decades after the warring stopped. >>> >>>3 decades ! Where on earth did you get that figure from ? What was being >>>rationed in 1975 ? >> >>I found it. whew! >> >>Reference: _The Downing Street Years_; Margaret Thatcher, Harper-Collins; >>1993; page 44. >> >>"But I took greatest personal pleasure in the removal of exchange >>controls -- that is the abolition of the elaborate statuatory >>restrictions on the amount of foreign exchange British citizens >>could acquire. These had been introduced as an 'emergency measure' >>at the start of the Second World War and maintained by successive >>governments, largely in the hope of increasing industrial >>investment in Britain and of resisting pressure on sterling." >> >>/BAH > > > That's not "rationing", dingledorf. That's inflation control, and >economic growth initiative. They were rationing the amount of money anyone could have, especially businesses that could have expanded outside the country. /BAH
From: MassiveProng on 5 Feb 2007 08:44 On Mon, 05 Feb 07 12:51:50 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >Nope. Count up the machine language instructions. Now count those >that arithmetic. On the architecture I worked on, the arithmetic >instructions were 1/7. > >/BAH ALL BINARY OPERATIONS are ALL that take place at the electrical level, and ALL BINARY OPERATIONS ARE BASE TWO MATH! That is LONG BEFOPRE ANY API gets implemented, or any math operands get utilized at the level you were referring to. Get a clue!
From: MassiveProng on 5 Feb 2007 08:48
On Mon, 05 Feb 07 13:35:04 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >In article <2srcs2douj8ck4ojlg9fsvio58o83hf97c(a)4ax.com>, > MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>On Sun, 04 Feb 07 15:56:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >> >>>In article <45C34470.DCB07DFF(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >I think you should read up about rationing during WW2. >>>>> >>>>> I have. It is significant that England couldn't figure out how >>>>> to stop war rations until 3 decades after the warring stopped. >>>> >>>>3 decades ! Where on earth did you get that figure from ? What was being >>>>rationed in 1975 ? >>> >>>I found it. whew! >>> >>>Reference: _The Downing Street Years_; Margaret Thatcher, Harper-Collins; >>>1993; page 44. >>> >>>"But I took greatest personal pleasure in the removal of exchange >>>controls -- that is the abolition of the elaborate statuatory >>>restrictions on the amount of foreign exchange British citizens >>>could acquire. These had been introduced as an 'emergency measure' >>>at the start of the Second World War and maintained by successive >>>governments, largely in the hope of increasing industrial >>>investment in Britain and of resisting pressure on sterling." >>> >>>/BAH >> >> >> That's not "rationing", dingledorf. That's inflation control, and >>economic growth initiative. > >They were rationing the amount of money anyone could have, >especially businesses that could have expanded outside the >country. > No. They were regulating how much they could SPEND, not how much they could HAVE. It was in no way, shape, or form "rationing". |