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From: unsettled on 5 Feb 2007 08:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <45C67C3F.E37768AC(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>Islam is now ~1400 years old. We can look at what >>>Christianity was doing about the year 1400. Much of >>>what was going on wasn't very pretty. >> >>You may to be interested to know that I concur with the view that the > > behaviour of > >>religions is related to their age too. >> >> >> >>>Luther was born in 1483. If the evolution of Islam tracks that of >>>Christianity at all, their great reformer should be coming along any time > > now. > >>>The conditions happen to be ripe. Funny how that works. >> >>Yes. I've been thinking that it's time for some kind of 'reform Islam' that > > takes > >>them into a modern forward-thinking technological era instead of a regressive >>agrarian tribal/fuedal one. > > > And that is exactly what I've been talking about for 15,000 posts. > > What we are seeing is the struggle between modernization and > keeping things at the status quo. Those who do not want to change > are trying to destroy the cause of those who want to mondernize. > > Modernization means including Western civilization's progress. > > Until WWI and the final breakup of the Ottoman Empire, there was > no WEstern civilization influcence to tempt most Muslims. Even > those who were the first embassadors to Europe in the late > 1800s could not understand most of the European lifestyle. > There was no way they could send back explanations for certain > things like entertainment, science, art and medicine. It is a difficult time between now and the 'some point in the future' when Islam will reform itself. I guess that was a little too tongue in cheek for some readers, the word difficult includes the concepts of deadly and generally destructive.
From: Eeyore on 5 Feb 2007 08:56 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >There's a Cambridge Mass too. > >> > >> Son, that is a town; it is not a school. > > > >City actually. Same as ours. > > I think it's a town. I'd have to check what it's carter is. > I don't remember a mayor of Cambridge. > > >Cambridge is a city in the Greater Boston area of Massachusetts, United > >States. It was named in honor of Cambridge, England. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge%2C_Massachusetts > > > >The city of Cambridge is an old English university town and the > >administrative centre of the county of Cambridgeshire. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge > > The difference between town and city is the style of government. Why are you bringing that into it ? Graham
From: unsettled on 5 Feb 2007 08:58 MassiveProng wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 07 13:35:04 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > > >>In article <2srcs2douj8ck4ojlg9fsvio58o83hf97c(a)4ax.com>, >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 04 Feb 07 15:56:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>> >>> >>>>In article <45C34470.DCB07DFF(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I think you should read up about rationing during WW2. >>>>>> >>>>>>I have. It is significant that England couldn't figure out how >>>>>>to stop war rations until 3 decades after the warring stopped. >>>>> >>>>>3 decades ! Where on earth did you get that figure from ? What was being >>>>>rationed in 1975 ? >>>> >>>>I found it. whew! >>>> >>>>Reference: _The Downing Street Years_; Margaret Thatcher, Harper-Collins; >>>>1993; page 44. >>>> >>>>"But I took greatest personal pleasure in the removal of exchange >>>>controls -- that is the abolition of the elaborate statuatory >>>>restrictions on the amount of foreign exchange British citizens >>>>could acquire. These had been introduced as an 'emergency measure' >>>>at the start of the Second World War and maintained by successive >>>>governments, largely in the hope of increasing industrial >>>>investment in Britain and of resisting pressure on sterling." >>>> >>>>/BAH >>> >>> >>> That's not "rationing", dingledorf. That's inflation control, and >>>economic growth initiative. >> >>They were rationing the amount of money anyone could have, >>especially businesses that could have expanded outside the >>country. >> > > > No. They were regulating how much they could SPEND, not how much > they could HAVE. > > It was in no way, shape, or form "rationing". Your definitions are unique.
From: Eeyore on 5 Feb 2007 08:59 MassiveProng wrote: > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> Gave us: > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>I don't know how you handle these things in the USA but in the UK a full-size > >>>electric stove is a permanently installed device that an electrician fits to a > >>>specific power point that includes ( as it happens ) an isolating switch. > >> > >> When new stuff gets put in, these days, it gets plugged in. Even stuff > >> that you normally think of as permanent will have a way to plug and unplug > >> it. This reduces the skill level needed to do a safe installation. > >> > >> BTW: In California, nothing is permanently installed. It may tumble out > >> the door any minute. > > > >We're consumer oriented here in the US rather than union > >oriented, for the most part. > > Well, THAT was a one hundred percent meaningless remark. No doubt it was meant to be profound in some pathetic PHB management way. Graham
From: Phil Carmody on 5 Feb 2007 08:58
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >What's your point ? > > Unbelievable. So your point is unbelievable? I guess that's what we've come to expect. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./. |