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From: Phil Carmody on 4 Feb 2007 19:38 unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > > >>Phil Carmody wrote: > > >>>an externally generated NMI, synchronised with the horizontal flyback? > >>>Of course, you'd not have enough time during he vertical flyback to > >>>actually chage much of the "screen", surely? > > >>Nomenclature lesson: retrace > > > It was a bleedin' telly - it was flying back. > > http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/tv8.htm References like that prove nothing. It was a telly, it was flying back - thanks to, imagine it, a flyback transformer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_transformer Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: T Wake on 4 Feb 2007 19:44 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45C6797C.F75F0F1B(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote >> > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote >> >> >> >>> I gave you an estimate of the year. Franz and I were trying >> >>> to get habshi to test his ideas. That's when habshi told >> >>> where he went to school. I can't recall the name of the school-- >> >>> Cambridge is what pops up but I can't say if that's the right one. >> >> >> >>He was lying. >> > >> > That is possible. Since the guy has no imagination, I figured >> > he couldn't make that one up. >> >> I would suspect that is it more likely he has no education than he went >> to a >> UK university (of pretty much any calibre). > > But excluding Cambridge I'd hope ! I said it is more likely he has no education. (Unless you have a low opinion of Cambridge :-))
From: Eeyore on 4 Feb 2007 19:53 Ken Smith wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Phil Carmody wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > >> > unsettled wrote: > >> > > MassiveProng wrote: > >> > > > A computer takes what we call DATA, and performs computational tasks > >> > > > on it to turn it into what we call INFOrmation. > >> > > > > >> > > > There is a difference, and you and BAH obviously do not know what > >> > > > that difference is. > >> > > > > >> > > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/microcontroller > >> > > > > >> > > > http://m-w.com/dictionary/microcontroller > >> > > > > >> > > > Neither mention the word computer at all. > >> > > > >> > > An electronic device for the storage and processing of information. > >> > > www.micro2000uk.co.uk/hardware_glossary.htm > >> > > >> > I suggest you consider the difference between general purpose and embedded. > >> > > >> > Can BAH's stove print "Hello world" for example ? > >> > >> As someone who's just quit a gig at a very big name semiconductor > >> company which makes everything from milliwatt 8-bits to fire-breathing > >> 64-bit processors, I have to just say > >> > >> THIS BRANCH OF THE THREAD IS NOT WORTH GOING DOWN. > >> > >> Everything's shades of grey, and where people chose to draw > >> the line between black and white is almost completely arbitrary. > >> > >> Notably, I'm not even going to tell you where on that scale I > >> view 'computer' to become an inappropriate term. > > > >I will though. > > > >I expect a computer to have some decent input and output devices / ports. A few > >buttons and a 4 character display don't cut it for example. > > So a PDP-8 could not be a computer then? It has the ports. So, you connect a teletype or VDU to it. I doubt BAH's stove has a keyboard input and a display or printer connection.. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Feb 2007 19:57 unsettled wrote: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > > > Of course, you'd not have enough time during he vertical flyback > > to actually chage much of the "screen", surely? > > Nomenclature lesson: retrace Retrace and flyback are equally acceptable. I can see you now. The kind of manager who delights in belittling ppl. You have all the hallmarks. A total disaster for any company employing you. Graham
From: Ken Smith on 4 Feb 2007 19:58
In article <45C67FF2.45815BAB(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >Phil Carmody wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: >> >> > unsettled wrote: >> >> > > MassiveProng wrote: >> >> > > > A computer takes what we call DATA, and performs >computational tasks >> >> > > > on it to turn it into what we call INFOrmation. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > There is a difference, and you and BAH obviously do not know what >> >> > > > that difference is. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/microcontroller >> >> > > > >> >> > > > http://m-w.com/dictionary/microcontroller >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Neither mention the word computer at all. >> >> > > >> >> > > An electronic device for the storage and processing of information. >> >> > > www.micro2000uk.co.uk/hardware_glossary.htm >> >> > >> >> > I suggest you consider the difference between general purpose and >embedded. >> >> > >> >> > Can BAH's stove print "Hello world" for example ? >> >> >> >> As someone who's just quit a gig at a very big name semiconductor >> >> company which makes everything from milliwatt 8-bits to fire-breathing >> >> 64-bit processors, I have to just say >> >> >> >> THIS BRANCH OF THE THREAD IS NOT WORTH GOING DOWN. >> >> >> >> Everything's shades of grey, and where people chose to draw >> >> the line between black and white is almost completely arbitrary. >> >> >> >> Notably, I'm not even going to tell you where on that scale I >> >> view 'computer' to become an inappropriate term. >> > >> >I will though. >> > >> >I expect a computer to have some decent input and output devices / >ports. A few >> >buttons and a 4 character display don't cut it for example. >> >> So a PDP-8 could not be a computer then? > >It has the ports. So, you connect a teletype or VDU to it. I doubt BAH's >stove has a >keyboard input and a display or printer connection.. Actually, it may not have any ports. The PDP-8 didn't even really have an I/O instruction. One of the 8 codes was a NOP as far as the CPU was concerned. You would decode this externally and do the I/O operation with external hardware. Most PDP-8s had a current loop interface built onto them for the paper tape reader. > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |