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From: Eeyore on 19 Feb 2007 10:11 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: > >On Sat, 17 Feb 07 14:08:30 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > > > >>Why real time? > > > > Because it is processed, compressed video data. > >It has to be processed to be rendered by the video card. > > That's not real time. Real time implies that the image has > to be display in the same instant that the image was first > made. What you guys are talking about is a sequential process. > It doesn't matter when the bits are created on your system as > long as they are sequential. Real time involves doing it at the same *rate* as the material originated. Graham
From: nonsense on 19 Feb 2007 11:08 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <era3bm$tvp$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >>In article <er9hlt$8qk_004(a)s1005.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <er7av0$ijh$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>> >>>>In article <er6s31$8ss_006(a)s994.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>[.....] >>>> >>>>>When Linux can be installed and used with very little relearning >>>>>by any computer owner, then it will cease to be a toy and become >>>>>a general purpose tool. It hasn't reached that maturity..yet. >>>>>It is getting there rapidly. >>>> >>>> >>>>That is the case today. The average computer owner sends email, recieves >>>>spam, surfs the web and plays Minesweeper. >>> >>>Then you have not been keeping up with what is going on in the >>>real world. Clear your windows and take another look. >> >>Go take a look at what all those PCs get used for. What I listed was most >>of it. People have PCs in there home that only serve as a very limited >>tool. > > > Nope. I'm currently running a test so see just how much pressure > people are getting to start doing on-line banking. The latest > development is that any check you write is handled like a debit > card. The requirement for a voucher for each payment is disappearing. The audit trail model is changing. >>>>You get all that in many >>>>installs today. All the user has to do is answer yes to installing the >>>>software. >>> >>>Youare a decade behind. >> >>No. > > > You aren't noticing or you've already converted. > > /BAH >
From: nonsense on 19 Feb 2007 11:28 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <6baf5$45d8df82$49ecf3c$12829(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > "nonsense(a)unsettled.com" <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote: > >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >>>In article <5f310$45d8a544$4fe770f$11782(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>nonsense(a)unsettled.com <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote: >>>BAH wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>>Where's that supposed bright line between coding and using? >>>> >>>>><GRIN> Believe it or not, compilation. I guess I'd better >>>>>define this one. Compilation is the computing service that >>>>>changes your ASCII character directions into data blocks >>>>>that a linker can use to produce an executable set of >>>>>machine insructions. >>>> >>>>You mean like when I type a name and password in at >>>>the appropriate prompts. :-) >>> >>> >>>No, that is obviously an interpreter. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I understand what you think you wrote, but that >>>>doesn't define a bright line. When I set up a >>>>crontab to repeat a computer process (perhaps back >>>>up a set of files and put them on tape or a cd) at >>>>a certain time every day am I coding or am I using? >>> >>> >>>I'd say both in this case. It is an interpreter you are coding for, you >>>are using, lets say, vi and likely bash to do it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Same thing with a doze PC and "scheduled tasks." >>> >>> >>>In that case you are neither programming not a user. You are a victim. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>There are libraries at all "higher levels." I view this >>>>as a discussion well suited to fuzzy logic analysis. >>> >>> >>>I disagree. Fuzzy logic is just a digital guy trying to do analog. >> >>Disagree all you want. Disagreement doesn't change the >>facts or the scope. > > > It does need discussion from my POV. That's the first time > anybody asked the question and the first time I've tried to > set it down in English ASCII. Thus, I'm still thinking > about it because I surprised myself with that answer. Stumpers, even short term ones, are collectibles IMO.
From: Rich Grise on 19 Feb 2007 11:44 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:02:03 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > MassiveProng wrote: > >> I can boot Linux from a DVD and RUN it all day long, and I don't need to do >> ANY installation! > > That sounds interesting. > > Where can I get one ? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Slackware+Live%22 (Yes, I'm a Slacker, and I'm proselytizing.) :-) Cheers! Rich
From: Phil Carmody on 19 Feb 2007 12:24
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >Video, and audio, playback is about as realtime as it gets. > > > > Not if the bits can be stored before displaying. > > It's not *realtime* then silly ! > > Goodness, your ability to invent new bizarrely distorted meanings for words > knows no bounds. Storage of a video feed needs to be realtime (else you'd lose bits). Playback of a video feed needs to be realtime (else you'd lose fields). The two can be chronologically isolated, but if you've got live video streaming, then you've simply got both realtime problems simultaniously. However, the source doesn't need to know if the sink is a hard disk or a video playback device, and the sink doesn't need to know if the source is a hard disk or a video camera. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./. |