From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 22 Feb 07 12:19:13 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:

>That concept happens to be what most hardware developers miss.


Bwuahahahahahahahahaahaha!
From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:23:31 +0000, Tony Lance
<judemarie(a)bigberthathing.co.uk> Gave us:

>Big


Die, fuckhead.
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <erhmkg$em5$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <erhe08$8qk_008(a)s916.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <b708b$45db13c4$cdd084b9$32231(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> "nonsense(a)unsettled.com" <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote:
>>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>>
>[.....]
>>>We use thresholds to pigeonhole. The entire discussion,
>>>which didn't get they bites I had hoped it would, has
>>>to do with how we study nature more than it does with
>>>the realities within nature.
>>
>>The only way we know how to study is to take snapshots.
>>That's why it's so difficult to grok photons and electron
>>orbits. :-)
>
>This is not true. I doubt that Dr. Kent Cullers would even begin to
>agree. Many people tink in terms of the sweep of motion, the feel of
>things and how they sound. They do not have to freeze the situation in
>their mind to study it.

They do when they measure an event.

> For that matter that would hinder their mode of
>thinking.

I wasn't talking about thinking; I was talking about measurement.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <erhnfn$em5$5(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <erhd4t$8qk_001(a)s916.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <i70nt25k4ubuvllr029cun9ebu1e1bng0a(a)4ax.com>,
>> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 19 Feb 07 13:29:06 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:
>>>
>>>>Not at all. OSes were handling the above problems in the 60s.
>>>>The reason virtual memory was invented was to solve the above
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>> The swapping, in this case, CAUSES the interference.
>>
>>That has to do with severe memory management problems.
>
>No, it is just part of the overhead of doing VM.

Nope. VM doesn't have to swap. Swapping is done to make
room so a memory request by another task can be serviced.

I don't know why but people often confuse virtual memory
addressing with swapping. The two are separate.


> If the speed of
>results is important, it is better not to have to swap. This means that
>doing the tasks one after the other is the way to go.

You still have swap if a task is too big for the computer's resources.
Single-tasking doesn't prevent swapping. It prevents context
switching, but not swapping. You are confusing context switching
with swapping.

> Back in the day,
>the IBM370 would "roll out" a program so that it was put on hold while
>something else was done.

That had to do with resources such as magtape drives, diskpacks,
etc.


>
>[......]
>>>
>>> Not only that, but even on my 2GB machine, Billy swaps.
>>
>>that's just plain ridiculous if you aren't using all the
>>code segements. It tells me that the OS doesn't know how
>>to delete stale segments during its cleanup sweeps..it probably
>>doesn't have any cleanup sweeps.
>
>Windows allocates memory on a least fit basis. This tends to leave a lot
>of small holes in the memory space. Unfortunately on x86 machines, the
>memory management doesn't do address translation on a finer grain than the
>segment size. This leads to a lot of fluff in memory space.
>
>Windows doesn't assume that garbage collection is needed nor does it have
>memory compacting.

By memory compacting, are you talking about shuffling?

/BAH
From: MassiveProng on
On Fri, 23 Feb 07 11:17:24 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:

>In article <erhmkg$em5$3(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>In article <erhe08$8qk_008(a)s916.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>In article <b708b$45db13c4$cdd084b9$32231(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>>> "nonsense(a)unsettled.com" <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> wrote:
>>>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>[.....]
>>>>We use thresholds to pigeonhole. The entire discussion,
>>>>which didn't get they bites I had hoped it would, has
>>>>to do with how we study nature more than it does with
>>>>the realities within nature.
>>>
>>>The only way we know how to study is to take snapshots.
>>>That's why it's so difficult to grok photons and electron
>>>orbits. :-)
>>
>>This is not true. I doubt that Dr. Kent Cullers would even begin to
>>agree. Many people tink in terms of the sweep of motion, the feel of
>>things and how they sound. They do not have to freeze the situation in
>>their mind to study it.
>
>They do when they measure an event.

Retarded sidestep in attempt to hedge incorrect observation.
>
>> For that matter that would hinder their mode of
>>thinking.
>
>I wasn't talking about thinking; I was talking about measurement.

See above.