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From: nonsense on 6 Mar 2007 09:07 Ken Smith wrote: > In article <MPG.2056422472aa66b398a06f(a)news.individual.net>, > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>In article <eshesp$8qk_004(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >> >>>In article <eshe15$l1t$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>> >>>>In article <MPG.2055feeb3db1e22498a066(a)news.individual.net>, >>>>krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>>[....] >>>> >>>>>Much of the "controller" is on the chipset these days, oh >>>>>MassivelyWrong one. >>>> >>>>I know that appearing to agree with MissingProng is a strong indication of >>>>error but there is a point that I would like to make here. >>>> >>>>Way back in the mists of time, there was electronics for disk drives we >>>>called the "controller". This electronics was much simpler than the >>>>electronics used related to disk drives today. >>> >>>And one controller could have many devices hanging off it. >>>Apparently, that doesn't happen at the moment. From your >>>descriptions, it appears there a 1::1 restriction. >> >>SCSI controllers can have several devices hanging off them. > > > "SCSI controller" usually refers to the stuff that is making the SCSI > interface go. This shouldn't really be included in the "disk drive > controller" term. That's as self-serving statement as I've ever seen. It is a hard disk controller and more, a superset rather than "something different" that you'd prefer to make it. Things other than disk drives have been hung off SCSI > interfaces. Tape drives would be the simplest example of this. The SCSI > bus has to be general enough that such things can be done. The IDE connection supports CD drives as well as CR-R and CD-RW drives. IDE can also support tape drives designed for that purpose. Think Travan. http://www.pacificdata.com/ide_tapedrive.html <flush> your argument.
From: nonsense on 6 Mar 2007 09:16 MassiveProng wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:15:46 -0600, "nonsense(a)unsettled.com" > <nonsense(a)unsettled.com> Gave us: snip >>Bit by bit compare is the gold standard. > Bullshit. The MICROSOFT Flight Sim X CHECKSUMS the DVD during the > install process. It reads the entire DVD, and there is no image to > check it against bit-for-bit. It relies on a checksum figure, and it > is deadly accurate, dipshit. snip Using a Microsoft game as your standard? Good for you, not so good for serious uses.
From: nonsense on 6 Mar 2007 09:18 MassiveProng wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 07 13:50:34 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > > >>I guess you don't know what a den mother does. That would explain >>your 12-year-old mentality in these posts. >> > > > More likely they called you that as the part of den mothering that > relates to being a school marm prude. > > Hell, you aren't even smart enough to bear that moniker. Now there's irony. LOL Where are those Brits now?
From: nonsense on 6 Mar 2007 09:19 MassiveProng wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:13:57 -0500, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> Gave us: > > >>, most dim one. PCI is not required for either ATA nor Busmaster >>DMA. THe first busmaster DMA ATA was on ISA, Dimbulb. > > > Oh but, the KRW dumbfuck has forgotten that ever since the adoption > of the PCI bus, ALL peripheral I/O passes THROUGH it, as in TERTIARY > to it. > > Guess which side of that bus your precious IDE I/O chip is on? > > Guess where even an ISA bus is at when used (as they were for years > after PCI hit the industry)? > > The exception was AGP, and PCIx is even a PCI bus architecture, and > it is blazing fast. > > Yet you seem to think that all this is bypassed. Good luck learning > about modern PC motherboards, you're going to need it. Your sun may rise and set around "modern PC motherboards" but not everyone's does.
From: nonsense on 6 Mar 2007 09:25
MassiveProng wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 07 16:01:29 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > > >>And one controller could have many devices hanging off it. > > > > Nope. MFM as well as ESDI carried only two drives per channel. Had tapes on them too. > SCSI > is the exception, and has always carried many "ports" per channel. > That is due to the fact that the interface, SCSI, is meant for more > than hard drives. Wrong again. SCSI is NOT an exception. You'd probably be surprised at the sorts of things we hang off a centronics parallel I-O port. You folks call that the printer port because IBM named it LPT1. |