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From: Eeyore on 12 Oct 2006 06:43 |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: > It seems that in America you can now be attacked on an aircraft for > having a suntan and an iPod (as happened to a top UK jet set architect > fairly recently). I cannot understand why the gung-ho idiot that > assaulted him was not arrested when the plane touched down (unless of > course he was a sky marshall). > > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1777847.ece > > This guy is rich enough to get justice out of the American legal system > so that's OK. Jesus HC. And he was *Jewish* too ! " To the applause of fellow passengers, the Jewish designer was escorted from a New York flight as a potential bomber. " America has a heck of a lot to answer for. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Oct 2006 06:17 In article <iZOdnWV1GbfEq7DYRVnyiQ(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egifio$8ss_001(a)s909.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <452BA71F.FB6D6B40(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> > >>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>> >news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >>>> >>>> is not isolated to one human being. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >>>> >> >>>> >> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >>>> >> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >>>> >> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >>>> > >>>> >No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to >> destroy >>>> >three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) >>>> >to >>>> >extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of >> Western >>>> >civilization." >>>> >>>> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? >>> >>>Like he said. A few buildings. >> >> Do have any idea the trade that was going on inside them? >> There were whole companies wiped out. > >How many? Which ones? A list was compiled but I no longer recall where I read it. > >> These people had >> a collective knowledge about trading and how to get it done >> that could not be duplicated overnight. > >Yet they were not the only people who held this knowledge. You are not thinking. A small company has a niche within the global trade. If they are wiped out, the knowledge goes with them. And nobody can replace them in that niche until another company is formed (or the few survivors start remaking the needed infrastructure). If this company handled a commodity that is a small, but necessary, ingredient to make a foobar, manufacturing of that foobar will stop after inventory runs out. Those workers will be laid off. The companies that require a foobar to do their business, will eventually have to slow down or stop, laying their people off. Some will go out of business because their cash margin was small. This is called a lag in the economy and is not a short-term effect. That is why there are cycles. > There is nothing >which makes me think that the people who died in the WTC had exclusive, >globally important, knowledge which has been lost for all time. Why do you >think otherwise? Because I know how things get made and how people work to get them made. The latest decade of moving to just-in-time inventory also ensures that there will be effects from any disruption of deliveries. > >> The real work >> involving trade is what gets the food to the shelves in time >> for you to buy it before it rots. > >Yes. There are many more (and more significant) global trading centres than >WTC. It was just a name. Sand. Hole. Unseen head. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Oct 2006 06:22 In article <tZ9Xg.21778$Ij.17957(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egifn0$8ss_002(a)s909.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >> You people keep focusing on the buildings. Why don't you spend >> a nanosecond thinking about the people who were killed, > >I do think about them. It was quite a tragedy...but still less than 1/25 of >the number of people killed *each year* in the US by driving their >automobiles. > > >> the >> trade that was interrupted > >For a few days. Life moved on. > > >> and the destruction of the >> knowledge of how to do all this stuff? This includes data bases >> such as orders, invoices, names, dates, phone numbers, contacts. > >Funny, for all that, the world seems to be getting on just fine. If it is all just fine, why are you complaining here? Consider all the knowhow that was lost that day. The fact you didn't detect a visible effect in trade shows that a lot of people did a lot of work to ensure you stayed comfortable and spoiled. I don't anybody will know all the efforts that did go on. There are dribbles of stories that come out once in a while. I supposed it will take 50 years and a grad student to compile a history of the unseen efforts of people. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Oct 2006 06:25 In article <N0aXg.21780$Ij.3806(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egifun$8ss_003(a)s909.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <SIPWg.13196$6S3.11745(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:egfp39$8ss_001(a)s934.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <YtsWg.12731$6S3.12584(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:egd9oe$8qk_008(a)s891.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization >>>>>>>> is not isolated to one human being. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Where do you *get* these assumptions??? >>>>>> >>>>>> What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine? >>>>>> They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not >>>>>> empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. >>>>> >>>>>No, they did nothing of the kind. They demonstrated their intent to >>>>>destroy >>>>>three or four buildings. It's a huge leap of faith (i.e., assumption) >>>>>to >>>>>extrapolate from this that they are "intent to destroy all traces of >>>>>Western >>>>>civilization." >>>> >>>> Which word do you have troubles with meaning: World, Trade, or Center? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>As I've said before, you don't even know what your assumptions are, and >>>>>how >>>>>ludicrous the premises on which you predicate them. >>>> >>>> Fine. I started with actual events, then learned the history >>>> and made conclusions based on that learning and how people >>>> act and think. >>> >>> >>>And there's another crux to your fallacious assumptions. Are you willing >>>to >>>admit that people in a very different society from ours (Middle Eastern >>>Islam--and this is a drastic oversimplification, for the sake of brevity) >>>act and think in very different ways than you do? >> >> I don't have to admit it; I know the culture is different. Haven't >> I just been telling you repeatedly that I've been learning about >> it? > >And what you say you have learned about it is very, very different than what >I have experienced through Muslim friends and acquaintances over the years. > > >> Now, since they do think in very different ways than you and I do, >> why are you assuming that their peace-loving is the same as yours? > >I'm not. My understanding of their society is from contact with real-like >Middle Eastern muslims. Do your friends come from a culture where it is not acceptable to verbally say no when they disagree? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Oct 2006 06:36
In article <452D28C3.5463C83B(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> There aren't any other stores. There won't be any other >> >> stores. You are assuming that capitalism, a.k.a. >> >> competition, is allowed. >> > >> >Are you really this stupid ? >> >> Based on your definition of stupid: Fortunately, yes. > >It appears that you're also suffering from a serious case of paranoia. I was paid very well for a long time to be 100% paranoid. I was an expert in anticipating everything that can go wrong and how to prevent it or minimize the damage. The fact that you are able to post in this electronic medium is due to people like me who did this work. /BAH |