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From: Daniel Mandic on 12 Oct 2006 10:31 JoeBloe wrote: > Now, South Vietnam has electricity and TVs and even DVD players and > computers. Do you really, in your wildest dreams, think that they > would be in such a position has the communist regime been able to > overrun the South the way things were going before we bailed out the > French? > I know them for the not-taken part with North Korea Soccer World Championsship. And for the biggest displays, actually available. Samsung break Inch-records in penny numbers... My dear, where are the Apooloo times-- Apoollo 8-17. CM of course.... due to German rockeet technique. :) Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: lucasea on 12 Oct 2006 10:35 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:egl4ob$8qk_001(a)s837.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > > You are not thinking. That's funny, that's what I've been thinking about you all along. > A small company has a niche within the > global trade. If they are wiped out, the knowledge goes with > them. And nobody can replace them in that niche until another > company is formed (or the few survivors start remaking the > needed infrastructure). If this company handled a commodity > that is a small, but necessary, ingredient to make a foobar, > manufacturing of that foobar will stop after inventory runs > out. You have a fundamental lack of understanding of how technology development works, how a capitalist economy works, or how companies store information. First of all, the tenants in the WTC are not production companies, they're financial companies--money-pushers. The WTC was a bastion of the great American service economy. Even if there were production companies that were destroyed in the attack, if there is a market for a particular good, another company will fill the void. *No* information is ever irreplaceable--and if there is any information that would take a long time to reproduce or relearn, it will also be stored at another site--for example, at the home office and at the production plant. Even if the information for making a certain good was lost, if it was invented once, it *will* be invented again if it still has value--and that process actually employs *more* people, not fewer. > Those workers will be laid off. > require a foobar to do their business, will eventually have > to slow down or stop, laying their people off. Some will go > out of business because their cash margin was small. And if there is enough of a market for this foobar, the void will be filled, and those people will be re-employed. > This is called a lag in the economy and is not a short-term > effect. That is why there are cycles. No, there are cycles because of the lag between investment and production, and the fact that commodity producers spend like drunken sailors at the top of the cycle, and are too foolish to make investments at the bottom of the cycle. Some companies are finally catching on to this, and at the very least, smoothing out their spending across the cycle, if not actively investing in the trough. In your example, unless the means of production are also destroyed (and I don't think there would have been any production plants in the WTC), there will be little lag in the production, since most of the lag in production comes from the time it takes to build and commission a plant. >> There is nothing >>which makes me think that the people who died in the WTC had exclusive, >>globally important, knowledge which has been lost for all time. Why do you >>think otherwise? > > Because I know how things get made and how people work to get them > made. No, sorry, you don't. >The latest decade of moving to just-in-time inventory also > ensures that there will be effects from any disruption of deliveries. A momentary disruption, at worst. Remember Hurricane Katrina? Oil rig and refinery outages for about a week? How long did it take to get transportation and oil prices back on track? They began to recover the very next week, and had returned completely to normal by Halloween. >>> The real work >>> involving trade is what gets the food to the shelves in time >>> for you to buy it before it rots. >> >>Yes. There are many more (and more significant) global trading centres >>than >>WTC. It was just a name. > > Sand. Hole. Unseen head. That unseen head would be yours, not his--you're running around like a chicken with your head cut off, yelling "The sky is falling, the sky is falling". (Sorry for the mixed metaphor, but you have to admit, it *is* an amusing visual image.) All I can say is you live in some weird, cartoonish version of reality, where society folds its tent and gives up whenever something adverse happens. People just aren't that way, and neither is society. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 12 Oct 2006 10:39 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:egl50n$8qk_002(a)s837.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <tZ9Xg.21778$Ij.17957(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:egifn0$8ss_002(a)s909.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>> You people keep focusing on the buildings. Why don't you spend >>> a nanosecond thinking about the people who were killed, >> >>I do think about them. It was quite a tragedy...but still less than 1/25 >>of >>the number of people killed *each year* in the US by driving their >>automobiles. >> >> >>> the >>> trade that was interrupted >> >>For a few days. Life moved on. >> >> >>> and the destruction of the >>> knowledge of how to do all this stuff? This includes data bases >>> such as orders, invoices, names, dates, phone numbers, contacts. >> >>Funny, for all that, the world seems to be getting on just fine. > > If it is all just fine, why are you complaining here? Don't be obtuse. You were talking economic factors, and I was responding to that. What isn't fine is my government's overresponse to the attacks. > Consider all the knowhow that was lost that day. The fact > you didn't detect a visible effect in trade shows that a lot > of people did a lot of work to ensure you stayed comfortable > and spoiled. That's exactly my point. Society moves on. It takes a helluva lot more than destroying a couple of biggest buildings in the world to destroy society. > I don't anybody will know all the efforts that > did go on. There are dribbles of stories that come out once > in a while. I supposed it will take 50 years and a grad > student to compile a history of the unseen efforts of > people. Probably true. So what? Even with all your bluster about "intent to destroy all of Western Civilization", and how the WTC was the nexus of all trade in the world, society still moves on. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 12 Oct 2006 10:40 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:egl56u$8qk_003(a)s837.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <N0aXg.21780$Ij.3806(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>I'm not. My understanding of their society is from contact with real-like >>Middle Eastern muslims. > > Do your friends come from a culture where it is not acceptable > to verbally say no when they disagree? Some did, some didn't. How does that equate to--how did you put it--"a culture of violence"? Eric Lucas
From: Daniel Mandic on 12 Oct 2006 10:47
Eeyore wrote: > retribution My dictionary is getting hot.... I'll get my coat. Kind regards, Daniel Mandic (grandfather's Name. Farmer, Top Farmer) |