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From: MooseFET on 21 Oct 2006 20:36 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: [...] > Yep, and that would explaing the upswing in fear-mongering and showings of > the 9/11 video footage. The Republicans haven't a leg to stand on with the > real issues, so they choose to use fear-mongering instead. It may not work this time. I am seeing some signs that the voting public is "getting up on its hind legs" and saying "NO!". The law removing the right of habius corpus that passed last week may be the low point.
From: Daniel Mandic on 21 Oct 2006 20:35 unsettled wrote: > T Wake dsitorts as only a Muslim can: ? distorts? Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: Daniel Mandic on 21 Oct 2006 20:35 unsettled wrote: > You're good at taking IQ tests. Doesn't actually > mean you're "smart." It does. Also you can count in: Endurance, Skill and Patience. (E.g. longer test than the IQ Test ;)) Mine is ~120 Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: John Larkin on 21 Oct 2006 20:53 On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:02:34 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:mp3lj29e2fch9vi7q41flhjd983pcrh6de(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:10:34 +0100, "T Wake" >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>>message >>>news:69lkj218m8l6errb5fr0lnsb658moc7s8o(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0100, "T Wake" >>>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>If science teachers are teaching the Bible, they need to be fired. If >>>>>Religious Education teachers were teaching science, they should be >>>>>fired. >>>> >>>> Right, keep all things in their rigid compartments where God intended >>>> they stay. >>> >>>Interesting argument. You create the fallacy that supporting the >>>separation >>>of subjects into discrete categories for the education of children is >>>actually supporting the doctrine of Christianity. Nicely done. >>> >>>I assume then, that you feel Biology teachers should spend their time >>>teaching their student Spanish, >> >> If the teacher has a couple of Spanish-background kids in class, it >> would be appropriate to mention the Spanish names for things, or >> comment on critters that live in the kids' home countries. > >Nothing wrong with this, with the exception of a Biology teacher who starts >to teach the kids the wrong Spanish grammar - which is more appropriate to >the examples. Teaching ID as science is bad science. ID isn't bad science or good science. It's faith. Perhaps you don't understand faith. > >But it still falls foul of todays society. If the teacher is wasting time >teaching a subject they shouldnt be it is wrong. Why should they be paid to >teach (for example) biology if all that happens is the children come away >knowing Spanish? > >My example was not about bringing out interesting anecdotes or using >teaching techniques. Obvious. > >>> while the Gym teacher covers Mathematics. >> >> Certainly the mention of mechanical advantage, momentum, friction, >> things like that could be very useful in sports. Why select a light or >> heavy bat? How does a curve ball work? What's the best way to throw a >> football? That could create a lot more interest in physics than >> sitting in a classroom grinding out equations. > >Very true and real world examples are great. I said mathematics not physics >though as I suspected that would happen. All subjects need cross domain >applications, this is as close to a "fact of life" as anything else I can >think of. > >The reality though, and especially at pre-university level, is people need >the basic groundings in a subject before they are opened up into cross >domain work. Not obvious. > >There is a difference between showing how a subject can be applied in >different ways and teaching a different subject. > >The examples I used were Science teachers _teaching_ religion and religious >education teachers _teaching_ science. Not anecdotes. > >>>While we are at it, why have job titles at all. Why don't we all just be >>>"do >>>what you wanters." >> >> Why don't we all know and think about a little more than our >> specialty? Must an English teacher be deliberately ignorant of >> science? Must an engineering professor be uninterested in History? > >I am not asking for a lack of interest or ignorance. I dont know why you >read that into my posts. > >>> >>>Hmm. Sounds familiar. >>> >> >> Depressingly so. Crossing disciplines can result in great revelations, >> but a lot of people refuse to do it. No problem, I'll do it for you. > >In my experience people who refuse to cross disciplines tend to either know >very little about their discipline and are frightened to look outside it or >know too much about it and are frightened to look outside it. > >When it comes to teaching a subject, teach the subject. When it comes to >encouraging post graduate students, encourage. When it comes to finding a >real world application, find a real world application. > >Children only spend a finite time in education systems. Broad education can >come afterwards when the grounding is known. > >Or do away with subjects all together and teach jack of all trades. Then >those who specialise will do well, unlike today when (generally of course) >those who can cross disciplines do well. > I'm not as dismissive about the imagination of kids, or people without advanced degrees. John
From: MooseFET on 21 Oct 2006 20:58
T Wake wrote: > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > news:fu7lj2t874oat4omh23ub487ft86nmnf4t(a)4ax.com... [....] > > So far, we've found that we have a two-tiered gravitational system. > > > > We're currently being blue-shifted into our Great Attractor, while > > the Great Attractor is being red shifted into the wall. > > > > Comments? > > When you say "we" do you mean Earth, the solar system, the milky way or the > universe? Which direction is the Great Attractor in? Things are sort of like this: Milky Way + Andromeda galaxy = Local Group Local Group + (M84 +M86) + some others = Virgo Cluster Each of these is contracting and all of that is going in the Hydra-Centaurus direction. |