From: lucasea on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1161448269.254202.18890(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>[... democrats ...]
>>> They don't talk about what measures they will take to prevent alien
>>> attacks
>>
>>If we imagine that they have some ideas, we can also see reasons why
>>they may not want the other side to hear of them.
>>
>>Also a great deal has been said about the risk of something nasty
>>coming in in a cargo container. Democrats have suggested better
>>inspection as part of the answer to this so it isn't true that they
>>haven't said anything. Unfortunately, the inspection needs to happen
>>at the shipping end not the recieving. The ports are places you
>>wouldn't want a nuke to go off.
>
> What I'm more concerned about is the Democrats' and others' complete
> silence about nuclear power plants which is the most important
> action that can be taken right now. Only the person known
> as President Bush is even uttering those nouns.

Because they're another smokescreen to try to keep people from focusing on
the real issues. As I mentioned several times, and you've refuse to
address, less than 3 % of our national electric power comes from pretroleum.
Since we only import about 2/3 of our petroleum, apportioning imports across
all uses leaves about 2 % of our electric power coming from imported oil.
Since only about half of our oil comes from the traditional Muslim nations
that might cause us trouble (fully 1/3 of our imported oil comes from Canada
and Mexico), that's down to about 1 % of our total electric power grid that
is at risk. You would truly never notice that if it went off-line, as coal-
and natural gas-fired power plants would easily take up that small amount of
slack.

No, nuclear power plants have nothing to do with petroleum dependence on
Muslim nations, as you imply. They do, however, have to do with the future
of electric power in this country, once coal and natural gas run out.
However, between them, the reserve is estimated at well over 400 years, so
it's clearly not a big issue in this election as Bush would have us believe.
Where did you get your talking points, if not from the RNC--certainly not
from any analysis of actual information.


> It says that Connecticut has submitted a request for a permit
> to open a plant.

Great, I'm all for it personally. However, it has nothing to do with the
quality of elected officials.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>>And yet the qualifier "male" was still not needed.
>
> Yes, it is needed.

Only if you intend to use the "gender card" in place of facts, inn an
attempt to win an argument...which clearly appears to be your intent.


>I think that's one of the underlying reasons
> people cannot comprehend the concept of mess prevention. It
> appears that modern females are also not getting trained to
> anticipate and prevent messes.

OK, so you admit it's not a male-female thing, and yet you still insist on
playing the gender card. Makes your intent pretty clear.


> I'm starting to think that this may have something to do
> with concentrating on work that pays money rather than
> other kinds of work.

You mean other kinds of work like sitting around dreaming up paranoid
conspiracy theories?

Eric Lucas


From: T Wake on

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>>>>> Reminds me of some physics conferences I've attended, where you had to
>>>>> watch your step for slipping on the blood on the floor.
>>>>
>>>>All topics have conferences like that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I find physicists to be especially aggressive.
>>
>>Terseness isn't aggressive; it's efficient.
>
> "That can't work" is pretty terse, especially when it turns out later
> that it can work.

"Wow, that is great. It looks cool. It sound cool. It has a trendy
presentation and has been posted all over USENET in capital letters. It has
lots of pretty looking documents and some young guy who keeps talking about
how Einstein was ignored early on supporting it. It has the potential to
solve the worlds energy needs. It will allow mankind to colonise Mars. It is
brilliant" - is not very terse and it is even worse when it is discovered
that it will never work (*).

"That can't work" is indeed pretty terse and more often than not, it turns
out it actually can't work.

For every hundred thousand crackpot ideas there is one brilliant one. How
should people react to new ideas? Habishi would be a good example...



~~~~~~~~~~~
(*) Poorly worded given the rigours of the scientific method but I don't
mind.


From: lucasea on

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <c387f$453a4078$49ecfae$4299(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>Now I understand. You're a Muslim or a MUslim shill.
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
> You are correct.
>
>> I think these types of people are
>> trying to survive and assume that, if they were nice
>> about this terrosism, the Islamic extremists will
>> have mercy and not kill them.
>
> You are incorrect. There is no "trying" to survive about it. I can only
> speak for myself and I am trying to maintain my freedom and the rights I
> have been brought up to think were inalienable.

And for myself, it's a matter of maintaining perspective. If you recall, I
did not come to the conclusions I have from the Democrats. I came to those
conclusions by consideration of the data when I was still reasonably happy
with the Republican party. As I did so, I became more and more dissatisfied
with the Republican stance on things.

Nice try, BAH.


>> It's similar to a pack
>> mentality, I think.
>
> This argument cuts both ways.

Yes, but pack mentality generally doesn't work in the direction of
reasonableness. It generally works in the direction of extremism. Which is
more extremist, the insistence on proportion and reason in response to the
threat of terrorism, or the Chicken-Little "Sky is falling!" routine that
the Republicans have been pulling since about 2002?

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'm not posting here to discuss the benefits and socioeconomic
> effects of humor. I do not find satire funny. I think sarcasm
> is not funny at all but a method of demeaning the subject.

....and yet you use it all the time, if your postings here are any
indication.


>>Since the thing I'm supposed to think about in combination with those
>>tactics makes no sense, I can't figure out what you are suggesting I
>>think about. That being said, you can't assume that I haven't already
>>thought about it.
>
> Here is a religious extremism whose stated goal is to destroy
> Western civilization.

Evidence, please. This, once again, is at best an extremist
over-interpretation of what anyone has actually said.

Eric Lucas