From: jmfbahciv on 25 Oct 2006 06:42 In article <be992$453b7621$4fe75d1$17105(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <453A5164.754CBC24(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>The survey was to determine death rates from all causes pre and post >>>>>war. Quite simple really. >>>>> >>>>>Pre-war of course there weren't any deaths from either US killings or >>>>>any insurgents. >>>> >>>>And of course you faithfully believe Saddam's historical >>>>records as being accurate and true! Bwahahahahahaha >>> >>>The figures for the pre-war era encountered by the group tally with CIA >>>figures ! >> >> >> What era? And there aren't death certificates for those >> in hidden mass graves. So any person asked about people >> they know who died couldn't have shown a certificate. >> This person who disappeared could have been reported by >> 10 households. Do you not see a problem in collected >> unique datums? > >Lucas & Wake's blindness is highly selective. Yes. I don't understand their logic. I am considering a new hypothesis about this type of thinking. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Oct 2006 06:44 In article <ehiku1$rv0$6(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <ehfndt$8qk_013(a)s799.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <453A5164.754CBC24(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore wrote: >>>> >>>> > The survey was to determine death rates from all causes pre and post >>>> > war. Quite simple really. >>>> > >>>> > Pre-war of course there weren't any deaths from either US killings or >>>> > any insurgents. >>>> >>>> And of course you faithfully believe Saddam's historical >>>> records as being accurate and true! Bwahahahahahaha >>> >>>The figures for the pre-war era encountered by the group tally with CIA >>>figures ! >> >>What era? And there aren't death certificates for those >>in hidden mass graves. So any person asked about people >>they know who died couldn't have shown a certificate. >>This person who disappeared could have been reported by >>10 households. Do you not see a problem in collected >>unique datums? >> >>/BAH > >So if anything, the prewar deaths are over-reported, since you're relying on >people to tell you, and for post-war deaths, you have death certificates. When did the public records offices get reopened in that country? How does their public records offices work? I would need to know this before I'd even bother reading the report of estimated death count. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Oct 2006 06:45 In article <63c23$453cf3f2$49ecff9$26858(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Lloyd Parker wrote: > >> In article <ehfndt$8qk_013(a)s799.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <453A5164.754CBC24(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>unsettled wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The survey was to determine death rates from all causes pre and post >>>>>>war. Quite simple really. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pre-war of course there weren't any deaths from either US killings or >>>>>>any insurgents. >>>>> >>>>>And of course you faithfully believe Saddam's historical >>>>>records as being accurate and true! Bwahahahahahaha >>>> >>>>The figures for the pre-war era encountered by the group tally with CIA >>>>figures ! >>> >>>What era? And there aren't death certificates for those >>>in hidden mass graves. So any person asked about people >>>they know who died couldn't have shown a certificate. >>>This person who disappeared could have been reported by >>>10 households. Do you not see a problem in collected >>>unique datums? >>> >>>/BAH >> >> >> So if anything, the prewar deaths are over-reported, since you're relying on >> people to tell you, and for post-war deaths, you have death certificates. > >No bannana for this one either. When you have bad data >you are not in any position to decide it has some other >value that makes it useful. > >Some deaths are over reported. Others are unreported. >Still others are correctly reported. How can you >draw any valid conclusions out of such data. You might >hazzard a guess, but hazzard is the operative word >whenever you try that. > Wouldn't the standard deviation of hazzard guesses be +-50%? /BAH
From: T Wake on 25 Oct 2006 07:54 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:4iitj2p030albnbvi4ssev39j7ge23lq82(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:47:01 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >>For every hundred thousand crackpot ideas there is one brilliant one. How >>should people react to new ideas? > > By *thinking* about them! For how long? Also this assumes that people don't think about them *at all* before they dismiss them. Often the new idea is thought about, maybe for a second or two, before it is dismissed as crackpot. This is not a bad thing.
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Oct 2006 06:52
In article <676fc$453b76e5$4fe75d1$17105(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: <snip> >> Do these people own no logic circuits in their brains? > >Lucas & Wake have trouble nustering a single correctly >functioning neuron between them. I realize that. It a serious problem and you should be very worried about their kind of thinking because it is becoming the politcally correct way to think. This will cause political leaders who pander the same way to be elected. These people will make the decision to not deal with Islamic extremists. They will deny reality until it is too late to do anything about it. There one difference between WWII and now. Today's technology is sophisticated enough to wipe out 75% of the world's population within 12 months. Even in the black plague days, the creep of death waves took longer. This is why trying to dismiss these people with name calling is not an acceptable tactic. /BAH |