From: John Larkin on
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:53:06 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is a religious extremism whose stated goal is to destroy
>> >> Western civilization.
>> >
>> >Cite ?
>> >
>> >
>> >> The compensation for those who die
>> >> while doing this work for them is only addressed to males.
>> >> The idealism puts all women out of society (cover and
>> >> no transport out of the house). This is not getting back
>> >> to the old ways of Muslim living (from I've read).
>> >
>> >So you reckon that all Muslim women would happily say OK to this ?
>>
>> The women did in Iran. They got the old ways back. Then they
>> were sorry.
>
>You're hugely mistaken.
>
>70% of Iranian university graduates are women. Doesn't sound much like
>being under the yoke to me.
>
>Graham


But this sort of thing still lurks just below the surface...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=412697&in_page_id=1770


John

From: Daniel Mandic on
John Fields wrote:

> Have you learned how to goose-step yet?


No, but we two can make a 'Schuhplattler', if you wish :)



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> > MooseFET wrote:
> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > Do you have any evidence that human societies were a herd-style
> >> > where only one male was allowed to remain in the pack?
> >>
> >> It is not needed. Take a look at many of the apes or wolves. Only the
> >> high status members get to breed. In wolves it applies to both sexes.
> >> In apes it is mostly males. The bonobo is very much an exception to
> >> this.
> >
> > The bonobos are apparently our closest cousins.
>
> Genetically. This doesn't always imply any societal similarities.

There are some quite intruiging ones though.

Graham


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <o7-dnT-KVNv4IKLYRVnyhA(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
<snip>
>>Yet much less selective than unsettled and, assuming you are as joined to
>>"him" as I am to Lucas, you.
>
> In case you haven't noticed, unsettled and I disagree about a lot
> but we haven't had the opportunity to talk about it since you
> keep blowing smoke.

I have no idea what unsettled talks about as I dont see his posts. The smoke
is probably left overs from your own smokescreen techniques.

<snip>


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <0N-dnWC3jOg2IqLYRVnyiQ(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:ehnfkr$8qk_010(a)s885.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>>> This will cause political
>>> leaders who pander the same way to be elected.
>>
>>All political leaders pander to the electorate.
>
> Exactly. Thus, if the electorate started to require
> serious talk about serious things, the US Democrat leadership
> would be forced to deal with these problems.

Serious things include climate change, civil liberties etc.

Dont be blinkered in your thinking.

>>You are using demon #2 based on false assumption again.
>>
>>> These people
>>> will make the decision to not deal with Islamic extremists.
>>
>>Nonsense.
>>
>>> They will deny reality until it is too late to do anything
>>> about it.
>>
>>Nonsense.
>>
>>> There one difference between WWII and now.
>>
>>There are lots of differences between WWII and now. This is a very bad
>>analogy to use, as in the run up to WWII the Nazis ignored the
>>international
>>community, demonised a religion and militarised based on the false
>>threats.
>>
>>Nazi Germany was a nation with a powerful miliary machine and advanced
>>technology.
>>
>>Islamic extremism isn't.
>
> hmm..that's why these extremists use weapons manfuactured by
> the West to kill Westerners and Muslim moderates.

So what?

Islamic extremism is not the same as Nazi Germany. If they used bows and
arrows made in Peru it wouldnt make them the same as Nazi Germany.

The demonisation process claws at straws and brings in WWII as an example of
"why action needs to be taken against terrorism" neatly ignoring the
inaccuracy of the match and the ease in which a countermatch can be made.