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From: T Wake on 6 Nov 2006 08:30 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ein6oq$8qk_001(a)s943.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <7ad6a$454e0ae9$49ecf9b$23543(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > <snip cleanup> > >>As best I can tell, HMO's are a parallel to Natinal Health >>Care as it is practiced in the UK and Canada. > > YES! That's how it's morphing. No it isn't.
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Nov 2006 08:28 In article <b0478$454e0406$49ecf9b$23419(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <e4614$454b8ce0$4fe77ae$1746(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour >>>>>>>>groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the >>>>>>>>Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the >>>>>>>>store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk >>>>>>>>a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to >>>>>>>>look at a remarkable feat of the human species. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Americans ??? >>>>>> >>>>>>Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had >>>>>>new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who >>>>>>don't know how work gets done. >>>>> >>>>>I can't imagine what goes through their minds. >>>> >>>> >>>>Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread. >>> >>>You betcha. New money, such as it is. >> >> >> I still haven't been able to put a name to it and I've been >> trying. My latest is royalty; these were the people who >> trained from birth on how to run things. People with >> "new money" only seem to know how spend it rather than make >> stuff. However, I don't have this nailed down. It's like >> that game whackamole; just when you think you've got something >> figured out, up pops a new wrinkle to blast all your conclusions >> out of the water. That's what happens when you deal with people >> thingies; computers are so much saner. >> /BAH > >It is difficult to get one's mind around this, but >I'll make a little stab at it. > >When I was young, one of the books I read started out >with a park scene. At the edge, in a brownstone, was >a pediatrician's office. Outside were a half dozen >shiny new baby carriages, and one older one. The older >one belonged to a wealthy family. The lower classes >bought a cheap, glitzy carriage for each child born >to them, and the cheap ones don't last. The upper >class woman purchased an exceptionally good carriage, >which outlasted all her children. That's a good start. I think you're defining "poor" incorrectly. Here is a difference in that class you called poor. Land-poor people don't to that. They buy things like the rich lady did based on longevity and quality of service. I've found that only the people, whom I call city slickers, buy single use throwaway goods. I don't consider those poor in your book's line as poor. They are in the middle class. > >The new rich carry their mentality out of the >impovrished lower classes and never quite figure >out that their ingrained wants, desires, and >ingrained behavior are no longer appropriate. I see this in the middle class not the lower. > >Here's a typical example: > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14930823/ > >(For your benefit, since you don't browse, BAH, >large dog bone shaped pieces of wood were sent >to celebrities like Oprah and Trump, 40 total, >for their signature, then those will be auctioned >off to raise money for an aniimal shelter.) > >New money signs and sends it back. Old money >sends back the bone unsigned and sends a >generous check. > >New money vs. old money is in essence a completely >different approach to life. Old money continues to >create wealth, usually quietly, for future >generations. New money, when they actually think >beyond tomorrow, creates new wealth in splashy ways. And the splashy is never designed for the long-term. That's what Rome's bread and circuses were all about. They were funded forcibly by the productive to produce the glitziest. Silicon Valley went through a similar self-indulgent glut just before the dotcom crash. The goal in that community became who could throw the biggest wildest and most imanginative parties insteady of who could produce the best, most efficent and imaginative product to sell to customers. > >Also see the cable TV shows _The Anna Nicole >Smith Show_ and _Growing up Gotti_. That all sounds like middle class societies. You should work on a farm for a while :-). /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Nov 2006 08:30 In article <454F23F4.F28CDB32(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Expansionism ? What expansionism ? After we ( and the other allies ) kicked >> >his troops back out of Kuwait he wasn't doing any expansion. >> >> The UK and US were spending tons of money to keep him in his cage. > >Your assertion only. You are hopeless. It is a fact. Just because you can't remember what has happened does not make the event a fiction. > > >> They were not reimbursed for that. > >And who would we be reimbursed by ? Sigh! The UN. IOW, the UN would collect the monies from its members and pay the bill that the UK and US sent to the UN. /BAH > >Graham >
From: T Wake on 6 Nov 2006 08:37 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:einbk7$8qk_007(a)s943.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <454C9C11.F26D71E5(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >Do you guys not have fireplaces any more ? >>> >>> Only for show. >> >>I have 3 working ones. > > I have one that is functional. But it doesn't do anything useful. > I can't cook nor heat with it. >> >> >>> Are you saying that it's OK to pollute the air for heating? >> >>A good stove can be 90% efficient. > > That's not good enough if you're burning wood. What efficiency would you require for burning wood?
From: T Wake on 6 Nov 2006 08:38
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eindeb$8qk_002(a)s943.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <454F23F4.F28CDB32(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >Expansionism ? What expansionism ? After we ( and the other allies ) > kicked >>> >his troops back out of Kuwait he wasn't doing any expansion. >>> >>> The UK and US were spending tons of money to keep him in his cage. >> >>Your assertion only. > > You are hopeless. It is a fact. Just because you can't remember > what has happened does not make the event a fiction. >> >> >>> They were not reimbursed for that. >> >>And who would we be reimbursed by ? > > Sigh! The UN. IOW, the UN would collect the monies from its > members and pay the bill that the UK and US sent to the UN. It was a NATO led mission. I seem to recall several nations are woefully behind with their payments to the UN, and were so at the time of Gulf 1. Maybe when they all make good their debts the UN will be able to make payments. |