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From: jmfbahciv on 6 Nov 2006 06:47 In article <kTb3h.1659$r12.387(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message >news:oojpk2tg7e5iphjsl7qdafkucotg01m67q(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:59:10 +0000, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Expansionism ? What expansionism ? After we ( and the other allies ) >>>kicked his >>>troops back out of Kuwait he wasn't doing any expansion. >> >> It didn't get into the papers much, but there was a continuous >> campaign of bombing and so on for many years after the Gulf War had >> allegedly ended. To enforce the "no fly zone" mostly, I think. Look it >> up. > >And none of that had anything to do with "expansionism". At worst, it >*might* have been Saddam attacking his own citizens in the no-fly zones. >However, based on the patterns of flights and such, I remember analysts at >that time suggesting it was only Saddam thumbing his nose at Shrub Sr. This was during the time when Clinton was in office. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 6 Nov 2006 06:59 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <454C9CAE.AC9911AC(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> >> Would it have been OK with you if the US stopped containing Saddam and > >> >> his excursions north and south? > >> > > >> >What excursions ? There weren't any after Gulf War I. > >> > >> Exactly. Everytime Saddam tried, the UK and US bombed him. > > > >I don't recall any excursions. > > Perhaps you need to learn more recent history. > > > > > > >> Or have you forgotten all that? It was the UK and US spending > >> money to keep him and his expansionism contained. > > > >Expansionism ? What expansionism ? After we ( and the other allies ) kicked > his > >troops back out of Kuwait he wasn't doing any expansion. > > The UK and US were spending tons of money to keep him in his cage. > They were not reimbursed for that. Europe and the rest of the UN > were perfectly willing to let these two countries tie up their > military resources and monies babysitting Saddam. Saddam did > not learn his lesson about not attacking his Arab neighbors. > > > > > > >> >I'll also point out to you that it wan't just the *USA* involved in that > one > >> - > >> >nor even Gulf War II. > >> > >> I know that. > > > >So why did you say the USA then ? > > I'm currently reading about it. They were the first to say > they would help when asked and backed it up with action. > > /BAH
From: Eeyore on 6 Nov 2006 07:00 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Expansionism ? What expansionism ? After we ( and the other allies ) kicked > >his troops back out of Kuwait he wasn't doing any expansion. > > The UK and US were spending tons of money to keep him in his cage. Your assertion only. > They were not reimbursed for that. And who would we be reimbursed by ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Nov 2006 06:59 In article <454DF7A4.BE2D3169(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Have you already forgotten the reason for the Arab Embargo ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes. I don't remember all the details. >> >> > >> >> >It was because of western backing of Israel. Sound familiar ? Truth is >> >> >that Israel is the number one messmaker in the region. >> >> >> >> Which action? >> > >> >Action ? I didn't say action, I said *backing* ! Read what I wrote again. >> >> So you imagine that the Arabs put a bunch dates in a hat, picked >> one and said this the date we start our embargo? These people >> are not stupid. > >Do you ascribe any special importance to the date ? > > >> >> WAs this the time when fUSSR almost gained control >> >> of whole air space over the Suez Canal? >> > >> >What *ARE* you talking about now ?????? !!!!!!! I think you've got some >> >wires crossed. >> >> I'm talking about events that actually happened. In some social >> circles, this is called history. You apparently are missing >> some knowledge of what has happened in the recent past. > >Are you getting confused with the British / French / Israeli invasion of the >Suez canal area ? Why do you think I asked my question? I was trying to figure out what time frame you were thinking of. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 6 Nov 2006 07:01
In article <T46dnUTLLKRrntPYnZ2dnUVZ8tOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eikroc$8qk_013(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... <snip> >> I'm talking about events that actually happened. In some social >> circles, this is called history. You apparently are missing >> some knowledge of what has happened in the recent past. > >Really, this is not an avenue you want to go down. This discussion would be easier to do if you managed to remember what's really happened in the last two decades. /BAH |