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From: Paul J Gans on 13 Jan 2010 12:53 Kevin Nathan <knathan(a)project54.com> wrote: >On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:43:36 +0000 (UTC) >Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> wrote: >>>KDE4 can be VERY confusing (it's different). >> >>And all this difference is good why? >> >And quoting the entire msg for a one line reply is good why? :-) >Actually, I like KDE4 better than KDE3. There are things about it that >get me frustrated, but less than in KDE3. It's still not good enough to >keep me away from lighter-weight DMs/WMs, but it appears to impact >system resources much less than KDE3 did, in my subjective view. I am >giving it a good, long run so I can be sure I have seen most of what it >can do. I'm now waiting for the upgrade to come through to see if that >version is noticeably better or not. Well, I hope so. There is quite a difference between the user inteface and the code used to attain that. Productivity software (and KDE is that) really should not change the interface too often, and then only for good reasons. If the software needs to be rewritten, then rewrite it. Having incompatibilities with previous versions only means that people using it will be slowed down. There needs to be a real gain to justify that. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Chris Cox on 13 Jan 2010 16:23 On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 17:53 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote: ....snip... > If the software needs to be rewritten, then rewrite it. Having > incompatibilities with previous versions only means that people > using it will be slowed down. There needs to be a real gain > to justify that. Well.. I think a lot of wrestle with the fact that KDE4 is NOT the successor to KDE3, it's a different desktop environment. I think once you accept that, then you realize that the desktop enviroment you once used has simply vanished (one of the VERY few examples of a successful FOSS project vanishing). So... KDE3 is dead (unless somebody gets motivated). KDE4, is a new non-Gnome, Desktop enviroment that has the potential to replace it for many (for many, that's already done). Should you be upset? Yes. At who? Not sure. It's just one of those potential gotchas with FOSS projects. Just because a project is FOSS does not guarantee that it will last. But MOST successful FOSS projects live on. KDE3 is a VERY rare exception. KDE4 isn't horrible. Does it handle keyboard/mouse, etc shortcuts, actions, etc. as well as KDE3, no. Does is handle the same features as KDE3, no. Does is have some features that KDE3 did not have, yes. I sort of wished KDE4 wasn't named KDE at all. It's that different. IMHO, KDE4 still needs some work to even do its own feature set correctly.. others disagree and regard the project as mature. KDE1,2,3 was more evolutionary. KDE4 is more of a revolution.
From: gb on 13 Jan 2010 16:35 Now you've got me! I seem to recall that in KDE3 it was an option within System Settings. There was a drop down box with various options for each mouse button, including the illusive Bookmarks one. There does not appear to be the same facility with 4. I found it to be the most convenient way of getting to a bookmarked page--just click the wheel on the desktop and the bookmark list opened. Now it's a matter of opening a browser first and selecting from the task bar. Geoff Beale Kevin Nathan wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:51:17 +0000 > gb <greybeard12000(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>One thing that I find frustrating is the apparent inability to set the >>mouse wheel to show "Bookmarks" in KDE4. There may be a way but I'm >>damned if I can find it. >> > > I'm not familiar with that option -- is that in Konqueror? > >
From: Kevin Nathan on 13 Jan 2010 17:44 On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:23:03 -0600 Chris Cox <chrisncoxn(a)endlessnow.com> wrote: >KDE1,2,3 was more evolutionary. KDE4 is more of a revolution. > I'm not sure. It's possible, I suppose, but ISTR there being a significant paradigm shift from 1 to 2. (I might be wrong there, I could be confusing it with my shift from GNOME to KDE1!) However, I *do* remember a lot of bitching about KDE3 when it came out and how they 'ruined' KDE2, etc. :-) -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline) Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-default 15:40pm up 26 days 21:24, 19 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02
From: David Bolt on 13 Jan 2010 18:32
On Wednesday 13 Jan 2010 22:44, while playing with a tin of spray paint, Kevin Nathan painted this mural: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:23:03 -0600 > Chris Cox <chrisncoxn(a)endlessnow.com> wrote: > >>KDE1,2,3 was more evolutionary. KDE4 is more of a revolution. >> > > I'm not sure. It's possible, I suppose, but ISTR there being a > significant paradigm shift from 1 to 2. (I might be wrong there, I > could be confusing it with my shift from GNOME to KDE1!) However, I *do* > remember a lot of bitching about KDE3 when it came out and how they > 'ruined' KDE2, etc. :-) There's been bitching with every release so far, although the memories I have for the KDE1 to KDE2 and KDE2 to KDE3 version jumps is thankfully hidden away in a forgotten corner of my mind, never to be remembered again. Hopefully. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3M0 32b openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 |