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From: Dotan Cohen on 6 May 2010 09:10 >> Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could >> remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. > > That ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. Â KDE 3.5 is considered > dead. Â Why some motivated person has not forked it yet has escaped me. > Not exactly forked, but maintained: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Â Still, either pales in > comparison to the KDE 3.5 as does KDE4 Please, let me know what KDE 4 is missing for you. KDE 4.4 has only a handful of regressions from KDE 3.5.10, and they are not dealbreakers. Some of those are addressed in KDE 4.5. The "KDE 4 sux" time has passed. If you still have problems with KDE 4, then please let me know what they are so that they can be fixed. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/u2j880dece01005060559i8d269387ue479fb65b3fe4596(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Nate Bargmann on 6 May 2010 09:30 * On 2010 06 May 08:03 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could > >> remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. > > > > That ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. ??KDE 3.5 is considered > > dead. ??Why some motivated person has not forked it yet has escaped me. > > > > Not exactly forked, but maintained: > http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ I saw that later in the thread. It looks interesting. Thanks. > > ??Still, either pales in > > comparison to the KDE 3.5 as does KDE4 > > Please, let me know what KDE 4 is missing for you. KDE 4.4 has only a > handful of regressions from KDE 3.5.10, and they are not dealbreakers. > Some of those are addressed in KDE 4.5. I'm tired of typing this time and again: No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad." Device Notifier is a poor design and not easily changed to simply allow mounting so removable medium rather than starting Dolphin each time. No right click on the desktop to bring up the menu. Other things that just don't seem inuitive *for me* that were in KDE 3.5. These are small things to be sure and likely of little interest to anyone else. To me they are the little things that make 3.5 a pleasure to use and 4.x an impediment to my produtivity. > The "KDE 4 sux" time has passed. If you still have problems with KDE > 4, then please let me know what they are so that they can be fixed. The time for "I tried it for 15 minutes and KDE4 sux" comments has long passed, yes. I've given it a fair shake, I feel, I've tried asking politely for the things I liked about 3.5 to restored in 4.x only to be brushed aside by KDE devs. So *for me* KDE4 is not my vision of an ideal desktop environment. YMMV and I wish the KDE4 team and its users all the best. I may check in again some day and see how things are going. This is Free Software after all where one may come and go as one pleases. If nothing else, KDE4 has given me the benefit of giving the other DEs a fair evaluation, something I'd not done when I was happy with KDE 3.4 and 3.5. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100506132209.GB18442(a)n0nb.us
From: deloptes on 6 May 2010 10:20 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Please, let me know what KDE 4 is missing for you. KDE 4.4 has only a > handful of regressions from KDE 3.5.10, and they are not dealbreakers. > Some of those are addressed in KDE 4.5. > Do you know when 4.5 will be out and stable? The guys from kde seem to drop really stable in their x.5 branches :-) I am also not planning moving to kde4 unless I'm sure it's working for me. I have a lot of custom software and I'm not sure it's working. I'll have to test it soon (again). For now my parents are running debian testing with kde4.4 (I think) and they are very glad. It's much much better then kde3. It took them some time to get use to the new widget layouts, but recently they admitted they like it much better then kde3. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hruijt$l4r$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Carsten Pfeiffer on 6 May 2010 10:40 Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > Device Notifier is a poor design and not easily changed to simply allow > mounting so removable medium rather than starting Dolphin each time. FWIW, in 4.4.x it is possible to mount directly from the popup without starting dolphin. And you even see the amount of diskspace used. > No right click on the desktop to bring up the menu. Works for me. Just right click on the desktop to configure it, go to the "Mouse Actions" tab and set it to open the K-Menu on right-click. > Other things that just don't seem inuitive *for me* that were in KDE > 3.5. Feel free to report and and maybe they will get fixed. Cheers, Carsten
From: Facundo Aguilera on 6 May 2010 10:50
El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 10:22:09 Nate Bargmann <n0nb(a)n0nb.us> escribió: > > I'm tired of typing this time and again: > > No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad." > Konsole -> settings -> notifications -> bell in current session -> run "beep" (aptitude install beep) Is this what you want? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005061145.02317.budinero(a)gmail.com |