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From: Jorge Gonçalves on 6 May 2010 02:40 Hello! First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome! (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!) Thank you, keep the good work, Debian is one of the best. Jorge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2gb59a0661005052317jf0fa9ec4n2399a8ed8d64e1da(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Ana Guerrero on 6 May 2010 03:10 On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gon�alves wrote: > Hello! > > First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. > > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. > > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could > remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. > No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it. > I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and > when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will > switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome! > (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!) > You still have gnustep, xfce, lxde, no using any or simply never upgrade. Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100506065944.GA30648(a)ana.debian.net
From: Dotan Cohen on 6 May 2010 03:10 2010/5/6 Jorge Gonçalves <jmg.correio(a)gmail.com>: > Hello! > > First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. > > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. > > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could > remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. > > I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and > when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will > switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome! > (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!) > > Thank you, keep the good work, Debian is one of the best. > Jorge. > > You might be interested in the Pearson packages, which have KDE 3.5.10 with tons of bug fixes backported. It's not for Debian but for Debian-derived Ubuntu, still, it works: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ Furthermore, I file bug reports and feature requests for KDE. If you let me know what problems you are having with KDE 4.4, I will gladly file issues. KDE 4.0 and 4.1 were a mess, but KDE 4.2 and 4.3 were very usable. So far as I know KDE 4.4 addresses all but three or four KDE 3 regression issues. It's also lightweight on hardware (lighter that KDE 3!) so long as you are not loading Qt3 apps in addition to the Qt4. Just let me know what is still broken, and I will see if it can be taken care of. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/n2n880dece01005060000q138a67bchcf98dec5f19e7939(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Camaleón on 6 May 2010 03:20 On Thu, 06 May 2010 03:17:43 -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the > good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. You mean Squeeze? Because Lenny is already out. > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could > remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. Lenny will be still supported for at least one year, so no need to upgrade until that. > I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and > when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will > switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome! (and I feel > many users out there think like me!!!) Oh, I already passed for that situation (negation). You cannot avoid the future... don't you? So you better accomodate into what you find more confortable for you and go on. You have many choices :-) BTW, I still encounter far more exciting *any* kde4 flavour than anything Windows or Apple could provide. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.06.07.12.27(a)gmail.com
From: Nate Bargmann on 6 May 2010 08:10
* On 2010 06 May 01:35 -0500, Jorge Gon�alves wrote: > Hello! > > First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. > > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Others have probably pointed this out, Lenny has 3.5, the upcoming Squeeze will not. > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could > remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4. That ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. KDE 3.5 is considered dead. Why some motivated person has not forked it yet has escaped me. If I had the time, resources, and ability, it would be worthwhile to me to see the KDE 3.5 codebase live on. If nothing else, the Lenny source tarballs would be a starting point for a new branch. I'd expect some pushback from the KDE devs so it's likely the fork could not call itself KDE. Some will say that KDE 3.5 can go no further which was also said of XMMS which spawned Beep Media Player which spawned Audacious which is alive and well, last I checked. As I see it, KDE4 has been given 2+ years to match KDE 3.5 and they've been unable to do so thus the time has come for someone to seriously consider reviving the KDE 3.5 codebase. > I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and > when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will > switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome! > (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!) Well, don't go throwing the baby out with the bathwater as we say over here! I felt the same way but even though it is quirky, XFCE works fairly well as does GNOME in Linux Mint 8. Still, either pales in comparison to the KDE 3.5 as does KDE4 but at the end of the day, the DE is really not why I use a Linux distribution in the first place. So jumping to a proprietary OS is not an option. - Nate >> > Thank you, keep the good work, Debian is one of the best. Agreed. No matter the distro I choose, they are all Debian based. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100506120356.GT28964(a)n0nb.us |