LHC is Black Hole DOOMSDAY
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From: Raymond Yohros on 15 Jun 2010 18:23 On Jun 15, 3:53 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 12:32 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 11:12 am, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 1:15 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Europe's LHC will create a Black Hole. > > > > > in a totally controlled high vacuum detector chamber. > > > > black holes need to feed on mass to sustain themselfs > > > > just like hurricanes feed on hot water. > > > > ?? yes but is charge energy, and if it be energy is it mass E=mc^2, > > > and likewise food? > > > it will only last a fraction of a second. safe and good enough to > > make some great readings! > > > r.y > > Yes but you still didn't answer is charge energy thus food? charge > does not last for a fraction of a second. the only food are the tiny proton bunches that are being tested. once they turn into a huge load of energy, the reaction is contained in a vacuum. how long the reaction can last may depend on how many electron volts a released r.y
From: guskz on 15 Jun 2010 22:24 On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Jun 15, 3:53 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 15, 12:32 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 11:12 am, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 14, 1:15 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Europe's LHC will create a Black Hole. > > > > > > in a totally controlled high vacuum detector chamber. > > > > > black holes need to feed on mass to sustain themselfs > > > > > just like hurricanes feed on hot water. > > > > > ?? yes but is charge energy, and if it be energy is it mass E=mc^2, > > > > and likewise food? > > > > it will only last a fraction of a second. safe and good enough to > > > make some great readings! > > > > r.y > > > Yes but you still didn't answer is charge energy thus food? charge > > does not last for a fraction of a second. > > the only food are the tiny proton bunches that > are being tested. once they turn into a huge load of energy, > the reaction is contained in a vacuum. > how long the reaction can last may depend on how > many electron volts a released > > r.y Well that's where we agree to disagree. I considered charge as food for the black hole. #1. You must remember a force of charge between particles is "presently" considered an exchange of photons between these particles (I don't remember if it was virtual photons though). #2. The CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) thus heat, radiation, and light have already been considered by all, including Hawking as food for black holes.
From: John Christiansen on 16 Jun 2010 11:08 "Raymond Yohros" <bat(a)birdband.net> skrev i en meddelelse news:3668b588-e59b-4a40-adba-c4f9acc5355e(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Jun 15, 3:53 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 12:32 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 11:12 am, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 14, 1:15 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Europe's LHC will create a Black Hole. > > > > > in a totally controlled high vacuum detector chamber. > > > > black holes need to feed on mass to sustain themselfs > > > > just like hurricanes feed on hot water. > > > > ?? yes but is charge energy, and if it be energy is it mass E=mc^2, > > > and likewise food? > > > it will only last a fraction of a second. safe and good enough to > > make some great readings! > > > r.y > > Yes but you still didn't answer is charge energy thus food? charge > does not last for a fraction of a second. the only food are the tiny proton bunches that are being tested. once they turn into a huge load of energy, the reaction is contained in a vacuum. how long the reaction can last may depend on how many electron volts a released r.y Somebody suggested 10^20 eV, and that is not a lot of energy, only between 15 and 20 Joule J.C.
From: Raymond Yohros on 16 Jun 2010 12:41 On Jun 15, 9:24 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 3:53 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 12:32 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 15, 11:12 am, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 14, 1:15 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Europe's LHC will create a Black Hole. > > > > > > > in a totally controlled high vacuum detector chamber. > > > > > > black holes need to feed on mass to sustain themselfs > > > > > > just like hurricanes feed on hot water. > > > > > > ?? yes but is charge energy, and if it be energy is it mass E=mc^2, > > > > > and likewise food? > > > > > it will only last a fraction of a second. safe and good enough to > > > > make some great readings! > > > > > r.y > > > > Yes but you still didn't answer is charge energy thus food? charge > > > does not last for a fraction of a second. > > > the only food are the tiny proton bunches that > > are being tested. once they turn into a huge load of energy, > > the reaction is contained in a vacuum. > > how long the reaction can last may depend on how > > many electron volts a released > > > r.y > > Well that's where we agree to disagree. > > I considered charge as food for the black hole. > > #1. You must remember a force of charge between particles is > "presently" considered an exchange of photons between these particles > > #2. The CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) thus heat, > radiation, and light have already been considered by all, including > Hawking as food for black holes. > you are correct what i meant was that all that energy once all mass its gone cannot sustain the BH for long it is not possible to keep a stable spin by just doing that! r.y
From: guskz on 16 Jun 2010 14:36 On Jun 16, 12:41 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Jun 15, 9:24 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > On Jun 15, 3:53 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 15, 12:32 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 15, 11:12 am, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 1:15 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Europe's LHC will create a Black Hole. > > > > > > > > in a totally controlled high vacuum detector chamber. > > > > > > > black holes need to feed on mass to sustain themselfs > > > > > > > just like hurricanes feed on hot water. > > > > > > > ?? yes but is charge energy, and if it be energy is it mass E=mc^2, > > > > > > and likewise food? > > > > > > it will only last a fraction of a second. safe and good enough to > > > > > make some great readings! > > > > > > r.y > > > > > Yes but you still didn't answer is charge energy thus food? charge > > > > does not last for a fraction of a second. > > > > the only food are the tiny proton bunches that > > > are being tested. once they turn into a huge load of energy, > > > the reaction is contained in a vacuum. > > > how long the reaction can last may depend on how > > > many electron volts a released > > > > r.y > > > Well that's where we agree to disagree. > > > I considered charge as food for the black hole. > > > #1. You must remember a force of charge between particles is > > "presently" considered an exchange of photons between these particles > > > #2. The CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) thus heat, > > radiation, and light have already been considered by all, including > > Hawking as food for black holes. > > you are correct > what i meant was that all that energy once all mass its > gone cannot sustain the BH for long > it is not possible to keep a stable spin > by just doing that! > > r.y Nay. Hawking both absosption & emission radiation determines the lifespan.
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