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From: mpc755 on 9 Feb 2010 08:57 On Feb 8, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 8, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 7:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > > > > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > > > > > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > > > > > > > orthogonal. > > > > > > > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > Lets imagine a light wave with amplitude "x" and wavelength "w" > > > > > > > > > Now we say light travels a distance of Wavelength "w" at speed of "C" > > > > > > > > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > > > > > > > than the wavelength. > > > > > > > > > When we increase the frequency of light the parameter enlarges even > > > > > > > > further as the amplitude has risen. > > > > > > > > > So higher frequency light has to travel a longer distance. As the sine > > > > > > > > curve is more enlongated away from center. > > > > > > > > > So Light wave moves up and down at a speed faster than "C" > > > > > > > > > Now we assume another case an Electron is fired at speed of "c" The > > > > > > > > electron too travel like a wave. So electron will go up and down in > > > > > > > > sine wave. > > > > > > > > > So reality is speed of electron is more than "c" As the sine wave is > > > > > > > > curved. > > > > > > > > > I hope my analogy is understood by all. If not let me try to speak in > > > > > > > > more detail. > > > > > > > > > So an electron/ Light travelling at speed "c" is actually moving > > > > > > > > faster than "c" as it goes up and down the sine curves. > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > So if an electron is moving at speed "c" It is actually moving faster > > > > > > > > than "c" > > > > > > > > > Bye > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version2.0 > > > > > > > > Light travels at 'c' with respect to the aether.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > There is slow light depending on the gravity of the system. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > Gravity usually involves density and/or mass per given volume, > > > > > The aether is displaced based on mass per given volume. The pressure > > > > associated with the aether displaced based on mass per given volume is > > > > gravity. > > > > > > and yes > > > > > photons move seemingly slowly whenever a sufficient number of atoms > > > > > are getting in the way. > > > > > > Atoms are FIFO photon transponders that only trigger their output at > > > > > exactly 180 degrees. > > > > > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > There is radioactive pressure that is based on the amount of the > > > radioactive element itself. Half life proves it. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > And that has nothing to do with the post you are responding to.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Aether flow is the absolute truth. Care to argue? > > Mitch Raemsch I do not care to discuss a concept with someone who rambles and is unable to stick to the topic under discussion. If you ever are able to stay on topic and make coherent points then I would be willing to have a 'conversation' with you but it is obvious you are incapable of doing so. This thread is titled "Light speed is constant 'c'. I am puzzled". I have made two points. The first one is light waves propagate at 'c' with respect to the aether. The analogy is an emitter moving through water. When the emitter emits a flash of light the light waves propagate with respect to the water, not the emitter. Now, remove the water. An emitter is moving through aether. When the emitter emits a flash of light the light waves propagates with respect to the aether, not the emitter. Another poster said gravity is based on mass per volume. I often refer to mass per volume when discussing the aether displaced by matter so I felt I had a legitimate reason to respond stating the pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. The poster then responded by saying that was interesting and can it be leveraged or is it just knowledge. It can be leveraged because it explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment. The 'particle' travels a single path and the associated aether wave propagates available paths. 'Particle' is in quotes because we are not sure exactly what a photon or electron are. A particle of matter (i.e. a C-60 molecule) has an associated aether displacement wave. So, yes, the concept can be leveraged as a unified theory.
From: BradGuth on 9 Feb 2010 10:36 On Feb 9, 5:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 8, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 7:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > > > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > > > > > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > > > > > > > > orthogonal. > > > > > > > > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line.. It takes > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > Lets imagine a light wave with amplitude "x" and wavelength "w" > > > > > > > > > > Now we say light travels a distance of Wavelength "w" at speed of "C" > > > > > > > > > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > > > > > > > > than the wavelength. > > > > > > > > > > When we increase the frequency of light the parameter enlarges even > > > > > > > > > further as the amplitude has risen. > > > > > > > > > > So higher frequency light has to travel a longer distance.. As the sine > > > > > > > > > curve is more enlongated away from center. > > > > > > > > > > So Light wave moves up and down at a speed faster than "C" > > > > > > > > > > Now we assume another case an Electron is fired at speed of "c" The > > > > > > > > > electron too travel like a wave. So electron will go up and down in > > > > > > > > > sine wave. > > > > > > > > > > So reality is speed of electron is more than "c" As the sine wave is > > > > > > > > > curved. > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analogy is understood by all. If not let me try to speak in > > > > > > > > > more detail. > > > > > > > > > > So an electron/ Light travelling at speed "c" is actually moving > > > > > > > > > faster than "c" as it goes up and down the sine curves. > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line.. It takes > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > So if an electron is moving at speed "c" It is actually moving faster > > > > > > > > > than "c" > > > > > > > > > > Bye > > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version2.0 > > > > > > > > > Light travels at 'c' with respect to the aether.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > There is slow light depending on the gravity of the system. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > Gravity usually involves density and/or mass per given volume, > > > > > > The aether is displaced based on mass per given volume. The pressure > > > > > associated with the aether displaced based on mass per given volume is > > > > > gravity. > > > > > > > and yes > > > > > > photons move seemingly slowly whenever a sufficient number of atoms > > > > > > are getting in the way. > > > > > > > Atoms are FIFO photon transponders that only trigger their output at > > > > > > exactly 180 degrees. > > > > > > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > There is radioactive pressure that is based on the amount of the > > > > radioactive element itself. Half life proves it. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > And that has nothing to do with the post you are responding to.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Aether flow is the absolute truth. Care to argue? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > I do not care to discuss a concept with someone who rambles and is > unable to stick to the topic under discussion. If you ever are able to > stay on topic and make coherent points then I would be willing to have > a 'conversation' with you but it is obvious you are incapable of doing > so. > > This thread is titled "Light speed is constant 'c'. I am puzzled". > > I have made two points. > > The first one is light waves propagate at 'c' with respect to the > aether. > > The analogy is an emitter moving through water. When the emitter emits > a flash of light the light waves propagate with respect to the water, > not the emitter. > > Now, remove the water. > > An emitter is moving through aether. When the emitter emits a flash of > light the light waves propagates with respect to the aether, not the > emitter. > > Another poster said gravity is based on mass per volume. I often refer > to mass per volume when discussing the aether displaced by matter so I > felt I had a legitimate reason to respond stating the pressure > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > The poster then responded by saying that was interesting and can it be > leveraged or is it just knowledge. It can be leveraged because it > explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment. The > 'particle' travels a single path and the associated aether wave > propagates available paths. 'Particle' is in quotes because we are not > sure exactly what a photon or electron are. A particle of matter (i.e. > a C-60 molecule) has an associated aether displacement wave. So, yes, > the concept can be leveraged as a unified theory. How would the much greater (near instantaneous) velocity of a perpetual/sustained gravity wave or its aether modulation relate to the much slower propagation of light? ~ BG
From: mpc755 on 9 Feb 2010 10:57 On Feb 9, 10:36 am, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 9, 5:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 7:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > > > > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > > > > > > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > > > > > > > > > orthogonal. > > > > > > > > > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > > Lets imagine a light wave with amplitude "x" and wavelength "w" > > > > > > > > > > > Now we say light travels a distance of Wavelength "w" at speed of "C" > > > > > > > > > > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > > > > > > > > > than the wavelength. > > > > > > > > > > > When we increase the frequency of light the parameter enlarges even > > > > > > > > > > further as the amplitude has risen. > > > > > > > > > > > So higher frequency light has to travel a longer distance. As the sine > > > > > > > > > > curve is more enlongated away from center. > > > > > > > > > > > So Light wave moves up and down at a speed faster than "C" > > > > > > > > > > > Now we assume another case an Electron is fired at speed of "c" The > > > > > > > > > > electron too travel like a wave. So electron will go up and down in > > > > > > > > > > sine wave. > > > > > > > > > > > So reality is speed of electron is more than "c" As the sine wave is > > > > > > > > > > curved. > > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analogy is understood by all. If not let me try to speak in > > > > > > > > > > more detail. > > > > > > > > > > > So an electron/ Light travelling at speed "c" is actually moving > > > > > > > > > > faster than "c" as it goes up and down the sine curves. > > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > > So if an electron is moving at speed "c" It is actually moving faster > > > > > > > > > > than "c" > > > > > > > > > > > Bye > > > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version2.0 > > > > > > > > > > Light travels at 'c' with respect to the aether.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > There is slow light depending on the gravity of the system. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > Gravity usually involves density and/or mass per given volume, > > > > > > > The aether is displaced based on mass per given volume. The pressure > > > > > > associated with the aether displaced based on mass per given volume is > > > > > > gravity. > > > > > > > > and yes > > > > > > > photons move seemingly slowly whenever a sufficient number of atoms > > > > > > > are getting in the way. > > > > > > > > Atoms are FIFO photon transponders that only trigger their output at > > > > > > > exactly 180 degrees. > > > > > > > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > There is radioactive pressure that is based on the amount of the > > > > > radioactive element itself. Half life proves it. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > And that has nothing to do with the post you are responding to.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Aether flow is the absolute truth. Care to argue? > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > I do not care to discuss a concept with someone who rambles and is > > unable to stick to the topic under discussion. If you ever are able to > > stay on topic and make coherent points then I would be willing to have > > a 'conversation' with you but it is obvious you are incapable of doing > > so. > > > This thread is titled "Light speed is constant 'c'. I am puzzled". > > > I have made two points. > > > The first one is light waves propagate at 'c' with respect to the > > aether. > > > The analogy is an emitter moving through water. When the emitter emits > > a flash of light the light waves propagate with respect to the water, > > not the emitter. > > > Now, remove the water. > > > An emitter is moving through aether. When the emitter emits a flash of > > light the light waves propagates with respect to the aether, not the > > emitter. > > > Another poster said gravity is based on mass per volume. I often refer > > to mass per volume when discussing the aether displaced by matter so I > > felt I had a legitimate reason to respond stating the pressure > > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > > The poster then responded by saying that was interesting and can it be > > leveraged or is it just knowledge. It can be leveraged because it > > explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment. The > > 'particle' travels a single path and the associated aether wave > > propagates available paths. 'Particle' is in quotes because we are not > > sure exactly what a photon or electron are. A particle of matter (i.e. > > a C-60 molecule) has an associated aether displacement wave. So, yes, > > the concept can be leveraged as a unified theory. > > How would the much greater (near instantaneous) velocity of a > perpetual/sustained gravity wave or its aether modulation relate to > the much slower propagation of light? > > ~ BG I'm not sure your statement is correct. There is some 'evidence' gravity waves propagate faster than 'c' but most of the evidence seems to be the speed of gravity is 'c'. http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2003/gravity/ But even that is in dispute: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-speed-of-gravity.html So let's just say the speed of gravity is still open to debate. If the speed of gravity is determined to be faster than 'c' then that is evidence a photon is an actual particle and has an associated aether displacement wave. If the speed of gravity is determined to be 'c' then that is evidence the speed at which the state of the aether is able to change is 'c' and is evidence a photon is a directed/pointed wave which when detected collapses into a quantum of aether. Until there is more evidence my preferred description of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which collapses into a quantum of aether when detected and gravity waves and any type of change to the state of the aether propagates through the aether at 'c'. Until proven otherwise, waves and changes to the state of the aether propagate through the aether at 'c'.
From: BURT on 9 Feb 2010 12:51 On Feb 9, 5:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 8, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 7:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > > > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > > > > > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > > > > > > > > orthogonal. > > > > > > > > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line.. It takes > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > Lets imagine a light wave with amplitude "x" and wavelength "w" > > > > > > > > > > Now we say light travels a distance of Wavelength "w" at speed of "C" > > > > > > > > > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > > > > > > > > than the wavelength. > > > > > > > > > > When we increase the frequency of light the parameter enlarges even > > > > > > > > > further as the amplitude has risen. > > > > > > > > > > So higher frequency light has to travel a longer distance.. As the sine > > > > > > > > > curve is more enlongated away from center. > > > > > > > > > > So Light wave moves up and down at a speed faster than "C" > > > > > > > > > > Now we assume another case an Electron is fired at speed of "c" The > > > > > > > > > electron too travel like a wave. So electron will go up and down in > > > > > > > > > sine wave. > > > > > > > > > > So reality is speed of electron is more than "c" As the sine wave is > > > > > > > > > curved. > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analogy is understood by all. If not let me try to speak in > > > > > > > > > more detail. > > > > > > > > > > So an electron/ Light travelling at speed "c" is actually moving > > > > > > > > > faster than "c" as it goes up and down the sine curves. > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line.. It takes > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > So if an electron is moving at speed "c" It is actually moving faster > > > > > > > > > than "c" > > > > > > > > > > Bye > > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version2.0 > > > > > > > > > Light travels at 'c' with respect to the aether.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > There is slow light depending on the gravity of the system. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > Gravity usually involves density and/or mass per given volume, > > > > > > The aether is displaced based on mass per given volume. The pressure > > > > > associated with the aether displaced based on mass per given volume is > > > > > gravity. > > > > > > > and yes > > > > > > photons move seemingly slowly whenever a sufficient number of atoms > > > > > > are getting in the way. > > > > > > > Atoms are FIFO photon transponders that only trigger their output at > > > > > > exactly 180 degrees. > > > > > > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > There is radioactive pressure that is based on the amount of the > > > > radioactive element itself. Half life proves it. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > And that has nothing to do with the post you are responding to.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Aether flow is the absolute truth. Care to argue? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > I do not care to discuss a concept with someone who rambles and is > unable to stick to the topic under discussion. If you ever are able to > stay on topic and make coherent points then I would be willing to have > a 'conversation' with you but it is obvious you are incapable of doing > so. > > This thread is titled "Light speed is constant 'c'. I am puzzled". > > I have made two points. > > The first one is light waves propagate at 'c' with respect to the > aether. > > The analogy is an emitter moving through water. When the emitter emits > a flash of light the light waves propagate with respect to the water, > not the emitter. > > Now, remove the water. > > An emitter is moving through aether. When the emitter emits a flash of > light the light waves propagates with respect to the aether, not the > emitter. > > Another poster said gravity is based on mass per volume. I often refer > to mass per volume when discussing the aether displaced by matter so I > felt I had a legitimate reason to respond stating the pressure > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > The poster then responded by saying that was interesting and can it be > leveraged or is it just knowledge. It can be leveraged because it > explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment. The > 'particle' travels a single path and the associated aether wave > propagates available paths. 'Particle' is in quotes because we are not > sure exactly what a photon or electron are. A particle of matter (i.e. > a C-60 molecule) has an associated aether displacement wave. So, yes, > the concept can be leveraged as a unified theory.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think that the Unified theory will take a long time in the comming and that it will be millions of yeaers away. The aether flow concept is the most important but there is one higher. Mitch Raemsch Mitch Raemsch
From: BradGuth on 9 Feb 2010 13:36
On Feb 9, 7:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 9, 10:36 am, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 9, 5:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 8, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 8, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 7:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:52 pm, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:06 pm, Sanny <softtank...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Until now I used to agree that Speed of light is constant = "C" As it > > > > > > > > > > > has been seen by experiments. > > > > > > > > > > > > But a few minutes back I got an idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Light is a wave. It is a sine wave with Magnetic & Electric fields > > > > > > > > > > > orthogonal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since a Sine wave is a curve. > > > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets imagine a light wave with amplitude "x" and wavelength "w" > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we say light travels a distance of Wavelength "w" at speed of "C" > > > > > > > > > > > > But since sine wave is a curve the perimeter of movement is larger > > > > > > > > > > > than the wavelength. > > > > > > > > > > > > When we increase the frequency of light the parameter enlarges even > > > > > > > > > > > further as the amplitude has risen. > > > > > > > > > > > > So higher frequency light has to travel a longer distance. As the sine > > > > > > > > > > > curve is more enlongated away from center. > > > > > > > > > > > > So Light wave moves up and down at a speed faster than "C" > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we assume another case an Electron is fired at speed of "c" The > > > > > > > > > > > electron too travel like a wave. So electron will go up and down in > > > > > > > > > > > sine wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > So reality is speed of electron is more than "c" As the sine wave is > > > > > > > > > > > curved. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analogy is understood by all. If not let me try to speak in > > > > > > > > > > > more detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > So an electron/ Light travelling at speed "c" is actually moving > > > > > > > > > > > faster than "c" as it goes up and down the sine curves. > > > > > > > > > > > > The shortest distance between two points is straight line. It takes > > > > > > > > > > > longer if you go up and down in curves. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if an electron is moving at speed "c" It is actually moving faster > > > > > > > > > > > than "c" > > > > > > > > > > > > Bye > > > > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat with Computer:http://www.GetClub.com/Version2.0 > > > > > > > > > > > Light travels at 'c' with respect to the aether.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > There is slow light depending on the gravity of the system. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > Gravity usually involves density and/or mass per given volume, > > > > > > > > The aether is displaced based on mass per given volume. The pressure > > > > > > > associated with the aether displaced based on mass per given volume is > > > > > > > gravity. > > > > > > > > > and yes > > > > > > > > photons move seemingly slowly whenever a sufficient number of atoms > > > > > > > > are getting in the way. > > > > > > > > > Atoms are FIFO photon transponders that only trigger their output at > > > > > > > > exactly 180 degrees. > > > > > > > > > ~ BG- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > There is radioactive pressure that is based on the amount of the > > > > > > radioactive element itself. Half life proves it. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > And that has nothing to do with the post you are responding to.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Aether flow is the absolute truth. Care to argue? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > I do not care to discuss a concept with someone who rambles and is > > > unable to stick to the topic under discussion. If you ever are able to > > > stay on topic and make coherent points then I would be willing to have > > > a 'conversation' with you but it is obvious you are incapable of doing > > > so. > > > > This thread is titled "Light speed is constant 'c'. I am puzzled". > > > > I have made two points. > > > > The first one is light waves propagate at 'c' with respect to the > > > aether. > > > > The analogy is an emitter moving through water. When the emitter emits > > > a flash of light the light waves propagate with respect to the water, > > > not the emitter. > > > > Now, remove the water. > > > > An emitter is moving through aether. When the emitter emits a flash of > > > light the light waves propagates with respect to the aether, not the > > > emitter. > > > > Another poster said gravity is based on mass per volume. I often refer > > > to mass per volume when discussing the aether displaced by matter so I > > > felt I had a legitimate reason to respond stating the pressure > > > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > > > The poster then responded by saying that was interesting and can it be > > > leveraged or is it just knowledge. It can be leveraged because it > > > explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment. The > > > 'particle' travels a single path and the associated aether wave > > > propagates available paths. 'Particle' is in quotes because we are not > > > sure exactly what a photon or electron are. A particle of matter (i.e.. > > > a C-60 molecule) has an associated aether displacement wave. So, yes, > > > the concept can be leveraged as a unified theory. > > > How would the much greater (near instantaneous) velocity of a > > perpetual/sustained gravity wave or its aether modulation relate to > > the much slower propagation of light? > > > ~ BG > > I'm not sure your statement is correct. There is some 'evidence' > gravity waves propagate faster than 'c' but most of the evidence seems > to be the speed of gravity is 'c'. > > http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2003/gravity/ > > But even that is in dispute: > > http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/Phys-speed-of-gravity.html > > So let's just say the speed of gravity is still open to debate. > > If the speed of gravity is determined to be faster than 'c' then that > is evidence a photon is an actual particle and has an associated > aether displacement wave. > > If the speed of gravity is determined to be 'c' then that is evidence > the speed at which the state of the aether is able to change is 'c' > and is evidence a photon is a directed/pointed wave which when > detected collapses into a quantum of aether. > > Until there is more evidence my preferred description of a photon is > as a directed/pointed wave which collapses into a quantum of aether > when detected and gravity waves and any type of change to the state of > the aether propagates through the aether at 'c'. When a photon wave-front or wave-point runs itself directly square into an atom, what happens to that directed photon? > > Until proven otherwise, waves and changes to the state of the aether > propagate through the aether at 'c'. But unlike those photon creations, propagation and eventual termination (such as into a CCD or as having run itself into an atom that diverts and/or converts that photon), matter has always existed and represents a continuous/infinite graviton wave or weak link that's at least as old as the universe, and manages to survive regardless of whatever it runs into. ~ BG |