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From: ps56k on 26 Jun 2010 18:40 "Justin" <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message news:i05lp4$t3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On 06/26/2010 10:47 AM, ps56k wrote: >> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.org> wrote in message >> news:justin-EE9FB0.08493326062010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>>> I have a Linksys WTR54GS travel router. I am trying to use it to >>>>> share >>>>> a wireless connection to three other machines also using 802.11g. >>> That's my problem. I do not have access to ethernet ports at every >>> hotel/motel my team stays at. I need to be able to share the *wireless* >>> connection provided by the hotel. >> >> So - you are using the 54GS to connect to the hotel WiFi or avail >> Ethernet >> port, >> and then share that connection via the 54GS Ethernet ports..... > > We are sharing the hotel's wireless connection via the GS to three or four > other machines also wirelessly. > The only thing the hotel router would see is the GS. > There are no ethernet ports in the equation at all - unfortunately. > Most of the hotels we stay at are historic and for some reason they don't > like drilling holes through walls to wire each room with an RJ45 port. > > >> >> What are the other devices that don't have WiFi support ? >> >> Wouldn't it be easier overall to create a WiFi solution for the other >> devices >> with PCMCIA or USB WiFi cards ? >> >> > > Thats what I thought at first, but then we would have to have another > laptop constantly on. A device like the wtr54gs seems like a much simpler > solution. I'm confused.... must be semantics..... What are the other devices... computers ? Do they have WiFi capability or not ? If the hotels are WiFi enabled, that what exactly is the GS doing that the computers can't do directly ? hotel WiFi ---> GS --> Wifi --> computer ? hotel WiFi ---------------------> computer ?
From: Justin on 26 Jun 2010 19:05 On 06/26/2010 06:40 PM, ps56k wrote: > "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message > news:i05lp4$t3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On 06/26/2010 10:47 AM, ps56k wrote: >>> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.org> wrote in message >>> news:justin-EE9FB0.08493326062010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>>> I have a Linksys WTR54GS travel router. I am trying to use it to >>>>>> share >>>>>> a wireless connection to three other machines also using 802.11g. >>>> That's my problem. I do not have access to ethernet ports at every >>>> hotel/motel my team stays at. I need to be able to share the *wireless* >>>> connection provided by the hotel. >>> >>> So - you are using the 54GS to connect to the hotel WiFi or avail >>> Ethernet >>> port, >>> and then share that connection via the 54GS Ethernet ports..... >> >> We are sharing the hotel's wireless connection via the GS to three or four >> other machines also wirelessly. >> The only thing the hotel router would see is the GS. >> There are no ethernet ports in the equation at all - unfortunately. >> Most of the hotels we stay at are historic and for some reason they don't >> like drilling holes through walls to wire each room with an RJ45 port. >> >> >>> >>> What are the other devices that don't have WiFi support ? >>> >>> Wouldn't it be easier overall to create a WiFi solution for the other >>> devices >>> with PCMCIA or USB WiFi cards ? >>> >>> >> >> Thats what I thought at first, but then we would have to have another >> laptop constantly on. A device like the wtr54gs seems like a much simpler >> solution. > > I'm confused.... must be semantics..... > > What are the other devices... computers ? > Do they have WiFi capability or not ? > > If the hotels are WiFi enabled, > that what exactly is the GS doing that the computers can't do directly ? > > hotel WiFi ---> GS --> Wifi --> computer ? > hotel WiFi ---------------------> computer ? > > > option number 1 - the GS will act as a router. All laptops have wifi capability. Some day we might start bringing a little USB printer which we'll plug into the lone USB port on whatever device we buy - but that's a long way off.
From: ps56k on 26 Jun 2010 19:40 "Justin" <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message news:i0613v$c73$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On 06/26/2010 06:40 PM, ps56k wrote: >> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message >> news:i05lp4$t3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> On 06/26/2010 10:47 AM, ps56k wrote: >>>> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.org> wrote in message >>>> news:justin-EE9FB0.08493326062010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Linksys WTR54GS travel router. I am trying to use it to >>>>>>> share >>>>>>> a wireless connection to three other machines also using 802.11g. >>>>> That's my problem. I do not have access to ethernet ports at every >>>>> hotel/motel my team stays at. I need to be able to share the >>>>> *wireless* >>>>> connection provided by the hotel. >>>> >>>> So - you are using the 54GS to connect to the hotel WiFi or avail >>>> Ethernet >>>> port, >>>> and then share that connection via the 54GS Ethernet ports..... >>> >>> We are sharing the hotel's wireless connection via the GS to three or >>> four >>> other machines also wirelessly. >>> The only thing the hotel router would see is the GS. >>> There are no ethernet ports in the equation at all - unfortunately. >>> Most of the hotels we stay at are historic and for some reason they >>> don't >>> like drilling holes through walls to wire each room with an RJ45 port. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> What are the other devices that don't have WiFi support ? >>>> >>>> Wouldn't it be easier overall to create a WiFi solution for the other >>>> devices >>>> with PCMCIA or USB WiFi cards ? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Thats what I thought at first, but then we would have to have another >>> laptop constantly on. A device like the wtr54gs seems like a much >>> simpler >>> solution. >> >> I'm confused.... must be semantics..... >> >> What are the other devices... computers ? >> Do they have WiFi capability or not ? >> >> If the hotels are WiFi enabled, >> that what exactly is the GS doing that the computers can't do directly ? >> >> hotel WiFi ---> GS --> Wifi --> computer ? >> hotel WiFi ---------------------> computer ? >> >> >> > > option number 1 - the GS will act as a router. > All laptops have wifi capability. Some day we might start bringing a > little USB printer which we'll plug into the lone USB port on whatever > device we buy - but that's a long way off. what am I missing ???????? I'm lost.... could you just please simply explain what is connected to what ??? if the laptops have Wifi - then what function is the GS providing ???
From: Justin on 26 Jun 2010 19:55 On 06/26/2010 07:40 PM, ps56k wrote: > "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message > news:i0613v$c73$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On 06/26/2010 06:40 PM, ps56k wrote: >>> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message >>> news:i05lp4$t3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 06/26/2010 10:47 AM, ps56k wrote: >>>>> "Justin"<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:justin-EE9FB0.08493326062010(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a Linksys WTR54GS travel router. I am trying to use it to >>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>> a wireless connection to three other machines also using 802.11g. >>>>>> That's my problem. I do not have access to ethernet ports at every >>>>>> hotel/motel my team stays at. I need to be able to share the >>>>>> *wireless* >>>>>> connection provided by the hotel. >>>>> >>>>> So - you are using the 54GS to connect to the hotel WiFi or avail >>>>> Ethernet >>>>> port, >>>>> and then share that connection via the 54GS Ethernet ports..... >>>> >>>> We are sharing the hotel's wireless connection via the GS to three or >>>> four >>>> other machines also wirelessly. >>>> The only thing the hotel router would see is the GS. >>>> There are no ethernet ports in the equation at all - unfortunately. >>>> Most of the hotels we stay at are historic and for some reason they >>>> don't >>>> like drilling holes through walls to wire each room with an RJ45 port. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> What are the other devices that don't have WiFi support ? >>>>> >>>>> Wouldn't it be easier overall to create a WiFi solution for the other >>>>> devices >>>>> with PCMCIA or USB WiFi cards ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thats what I thought at first, but then we would have to have another >>>> laptop constantly on. A device like the wtr54gs seems like a much >>>> simpler >>>> solution. >>> >>> I'm confused.... must be semantics..... >>> >>> What are the other devices... computers ? >>> Do they have WiFi capability or not ? >>> >>> If the hotels are WiFi enabled, >>> that what exactly is the GS doing that the computers can't do directly ? >>> >>> hotel WiFi ---> GS --> Wifi --> computer ? >>> hotel WiFi ---------------------> computer ? >>> >>> >>> >> >> option number 1 - the GS will act as a router. >> All laptops have wifi capability. Some day we might start bringing a >> little USB printer which we'll plug into the lone USB port on whatever >> device we buy - but that's a long way off. > > what am I missing ???????? I'm lost.... > could you just please simply explain what is connected to what ??? > > if the laptops have Wifi - > then what function is the GS providing ??? > > Grr... The GS is routing. If I'm at a hotel I don't want my team to have to pay for each connection - that adds up over the course of a quarter.
From: Jonathan L. Parker on 27 Jun 2010 07:45
Justin wrote: > Grr... > The GS is routing. > If I'm at a hotel I don't want my team to have to pay for each > connection - that adds up over the course of a quarter. > Oh yes, *now* I get it. You want to knowingly book your "team" into a hotel that charges per user for its Wi-Fi, then pay for only one connection and steal (yes, I mean *steal*) the rest. Well...good luck getting any more help with *that* from honest people. I don't know what line of business you and your "team" are in, but I can't help wondering how you would respond if your customers were to act similarly towards you. And even if you live in a part of the world where free Wi-Fi is rare or even nonexistent in hotels-which I assume you *must* or you'd only book hotels where it *is* free-what would it hurt to try and negotiate a better rate with the hotel to make up for the extra cost, given that you're booking multiple rooms? The results of dealing upfront with people rather than attempting to rip them off behind their backs just *might* surprise you. |