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From: Pd on 27 Apr 2010 07:46 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-27, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > ><http://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers> > > > > Police raid Jason Chen's house, take computers and drives apparently > > using an invalid search warrant. > > > > As I undertand it they're claiming it's invalid due to the time (9.45pm). > However, it was valid between 7pm and 10pm, so it appears fine. No, they're claiming the seizure of his gear was invalid because he's a journalist. The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs to know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? -- Pd
From: Jim on 27 Apr 2010 07:51 On 2010-04-27, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >> On 2010-04-27, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >> ><http://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers> >> > >> > Police raid Jason Chen's house, take computers and drives apparently >> > using an invalid search warrant. >> > >> >> As I undertand it they're claiming it's invalid due to the time (9.45pm). >> However, it was valid between 7pm and 10pm, so it appears fine. > > No, they're claiming the seizure of his gear was invalid because he's a > journalist. All that means is that he's under no legal obligation to name the guy that sold it to him. If the charge is that Jason has paid for stolen goods then he's just as liable as anyone else. > The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs to > know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? Well, quite. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "[The MP4-12C] will be fitted with all manner of pointlessly shiny buttons that light up and a switch that says 'sport mode' that isn't connected to anything." The Daily Mash.
From: Richard Tobin on 27 Apr 2010 08:44 In article <slrnhtdjua.2n3g.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local>, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >If the charge is that Jason has paid for stolen goods then >he's just as liable as anyone else. Taking a look at something before returning it isn't stealing, nor is paying someone to let you have a look at something and then returning it to its owner. I've no idea whether it's against the law in California, but I don't see anything immoral about it. Sure, we don't *need* to know what the next iPhone looks like, but nor do we need to use the law to help Apple keep it secret. -- Richard
From: Woody on 27 Apr 2010 08:54 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > In article <slrnhtdjua.2n3g.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local>, > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > >If the charge is that Jason has paid for stolen goods then > >he's just as liable as anyone else. > > Taking a look at something before returning it isn't stealing, nor is > paying someone to let you have a look at something and then returning > it to its owner. I've no idea whether it's against the law in > California, but I don't see anything immoral about it. Really? Picking up something you know to be lost and selling it to someone else is stealing, however you chose to phrase it. Buying something you know to be someone elses property and then taking it apart is handling stolen goods and criminal damage. Not just by my standard, but more importantly by the law of the state of california where it happened (in fact I doubt there is an area where it isn't illegal). Sure, saying afterwards you just wanted to look at it and were going to return it is a great idea, I am sure many criminals have tried that one. > Sure, we don't *need* to know what the next iPhone looks like, but > nor do we need to use the law to help Apple keep it secret. The law aren't helping keep apples secret, they are prosecuting someone for stealing their property and selling it, which I am sure you would be happy they did for you if it happened to you. Or maybe not if you don't see anything wrong with it. -- Woody
From: Sak Wathanasin on 27 Apr 2010 08:59
On 27 Apr, 12:46, peterd.n...(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) wrote: > The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs to > know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? Apple's competitors? |