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From: zoara on 27 Apr 2010 09:51 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > In article <slrnhtdjua.2n3g.jim(a)wotan.magrathea.local>, > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > >If the charge is that Jason has paid for stolen goods then > >he's just as liable as anyone else. > > Taking a look at something before returning it isn't stealing, nor is > paying someone to let you have a look at something and then returning > it to its owner. I've no idea whether it's against the law in > California, In California, once you *sell* something that you understand to belong to someone, the act of "finding" the thing then becomes theft. So the person who sold it to Gizmodo is guilty of theft. Gizmodo is breaking a different law buy buying goods they know to be stolen. Daring Fireball has a good explanation of the whole thing at http://j.mp/bxGfiw > but I don't see anything immoral about it. It's as immoral as someone finding your phone or laptop, diary or phonebook, and going through all its contents before returning it to you. > Sure, we don't *need* to know what the next iPhone looks like, but > nor do we need to use the law to help Apple keep it secret. Neither should Gawker Media be above the law. I believe Gizmodo could have approached this in a way that didn't involve breaking the law. They should have attempted that and if it wasn't possible, left well alone. Instead they saw profit from the story and went ahead anyway. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: zoara on 27 Apr 2010 09:51 Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > On 27 Apr, 12:46, peterd.n...(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) wrote: > > > The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs > > to > > know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? > > Apple's competitors? I don't think a couple of months will make much difference, though. It's taken a while to catch up with the current iPhone... -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: zoara on 27 Apr 2010 09:52 Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > On 2010-04-27, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > > ><http://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers> > > > > > > Police raid Jason Chen's house, take computers and drives > > > apparently > > > using an invalid search warrant. > > > > > > > As I undertand it they're claiming it's invalid due to the time > > (9.45pm). > > However, it was valid between 7pm and 10pm, so it appears fine. > > No, they're claiming the seizure of his gear was invalid because he's > a > journalist. So being a journalist means you can break the law? > The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs > to > know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? Apple's hype machine backfired. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Woody on 27 Apr 2010 10:00 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > > On 27 Apr, 12:46, peterd.n...(a)gmail.invalid (Pd) wrote: > > > > > The whole thing is a loss of perspective I think. Who *really* needs > > > to > > > know what the next iPhone will look like before it's released? > > > > Apple's competitors? > > I don't think a couple of months will make much difference, though. It's > taken a while to catch up with the current iPhone... Well, honestly there is nothing technically advanced in apples iPhone hardware. In many ways it is fairly primative for a phone. It is the software that gave it an advance. Now other things have caught up it will be interesting to see what they do. -- Woody
From: D.M. Procida on 27 Apr 2010 12:31
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > <http://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers> > > Police raid Jason Chen's house, take computers and drives Good. I hope he is charged, tried and convicted of receiving stolen property. He sounds like a genuine sleazeball. > apparently using an invalid search warrant. They would say that, wouldn't they? Daniele |